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    Almagnus1's Avatar
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    Maley Oakensage
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nepentha View Post
    Very simple, we as an FC together collected the gil to pay for us to get exactly (1) house. That we all share.
    There have been many that have exchanged all sorts of RL and crypto currency for homes, had to verify as "money" is a bit ambiguous whereas gil is not.
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    Meluwen Nobu
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    Quote Originally Posted by SillyCrow View Post
    I think one simple solution would simply to force FCs to retain a minimum amount of active players to retain ownership of the plot.
    On paper this might sound like a good idea but I think it would damage more than help. You'd just end up having shell fc with x number of people that isn't ever playing just to meet that magic number.

    Or those who intentionally want to keep a smaller number cause you only have a fc with your partner or closest friends and wants a house together.


    Quote Originally Posted by Nepentha View Post
    That's the point. They shouldn't unless they want to.
    Fully agree.
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    Calista Fallon
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    Quote Originally Posted by SillyCrow View Post
    I think one simple solution would simply to force FCs to retain a minimum amount of active players to retain ownership of the plot.
    "SillyWabbit!", er, "Crow!", not happening
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    Aren't humans amazing? :3
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    Quote Originally Posted by IckeDerTyp View Post
    Aren't humans amazing? :3
    No, that's why we're not hyurs!
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    Almagnus keep asking to prove facts but when get same treatment he turns 180.

    Why are you so defensive? :')
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    R'ahlin Taka
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sotaris View Post
    Almagnus keep asking to prove facts but when get same treatment he turns 180.

    Why are you so defensive? :')
    You expect anything different from them at this point?

    In any case, back onto the topic at hand (or what is left of it, at least!) The main issue is when the houses were purchased. Using what Jojoya had stated earlier as example, the Mateus "Hoarders". They did it when it was a dead world, only to get hate later when people claim they lost their chance when they had already shown they weren't going to move to Mateus to get the housing. In that case, the player has no ground to stand on.

    I'm also more-so on the fence that an FC owning multiple houses is fine, provided they actually make use of the land they own. Such as growing in their gardens, decorating and such. Instead of just buying it for e-flexing power.

    In that respect, I personally believe the separation of "Private" wards and "FC wards" could (on paper) fix a few issues. Splitting apart the house-hunting horde into smaller groups, based on their personal desires. Meaning server burden is more spread out, making it harder for bots to flood that particular district. (Note. Hard, not Impossible.) not to mention less overall competition per plot, meaning chances are higher. (were it not for the Lottery system.. Plenty of fangs on that topic, but I feel i've said my piece about that in other threads)

    Doesn't fix the inherent supply issue we have, which is (again, on paper) an easy fix with just elevating the Apartments to house-esque levels of equality. So that the only reason to buy a ward house is the physical property, rather than gardening / size. But that is a pipe-dream at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenky View Post
    You expect anything different from them at this point?

    In any case, back onto the topic at hand (or what is left of it, at least!) The main issue is when the houses were purchased. Using what Jojoya had stated earlier as example, the Mateus "Hoarders". They did it when it was a dead world, only to get hate later when people claim they lost their chance when they had already shown they weren't going to move to Mateus to get the housing. In that case, the player has no ground to stand on.

    I'm also more-so on the fence that an FC owning multiple houses is fine, provided they actually make use of the land they own. Such as growing in their gardens, decorating and such. Instead of just buying it for e-flexing power.

    In that respect, I personally believe the separation of "Private" wards and "FC wards" could (on paper) fix a few issues. Splitting apart the house-hunting horde into smaller groups, based on their personal desires. Meaning server burden is more spread out, making it harder for bots to flood that particular district. (Note. Hard, not Impossible.) not to mention less overall competition per plot, meaning chances are higher. (were it not for the Lottery system.. Plenty of fangs on that topic, but I feel i've said my piece about that in other threads)

    Doesn't fix the inherent supply issue we have, which is (again, on paper) an easy fix with just elevating the Apartments to house-esque levels of equality. So that the only reason to buy a ward house is the physical property, rather than gardening / size. But that is a pipe-dream at this point.
    Awww I remember when personal housing first dropped those were the days. Plots open everywhere barely anyone around, handful of medium and large plots were open. Snagged my first plot in the lavender beds 1st ward plot 55 took me two weeks to gather the gil paid 2.8mil. Stayed on that spot until SHB then transferred to shiro then to the Goblet when I found a Med open late one night. Miss those days of seeing plots open and people knowing they had time
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    Meluwen Nobu
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    Quote Originally Posted by NanaWiloh View Post
    Awww I remember when personal housing first dropped those were the days. Plots open everywhere barely anyone around, handful of medium and large plots were open. Snagged my first plot in the lavender beds 1st ward plot 55 took me two weeks to gather the gil paid 2.8mil. Stayed on that spot until SHB then transferred to shiro then to the Goblet when I found a Med open late one night. Miss those days of seeing plots open and people knowing they had time
    Those were the days when you had to scrable 50m as a collective to even afford a small house for the FC.

    I remember my first small was like 5m and I remember the same view, empty lots literally everywhere. 2013-2014 was a good time to play lol
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    Isrun Whitewood
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenky View Post
    You expect anything different from them at this point?

    In any case, back onto the topic at hand (or what is left of it, at least!) The main issue is when the houses were purchased. Using what Jojoya had stated earlier as example, the Mateus "Hoarders". They did it when it was a dead world, only to get hate later when people claim they lost their chance when they had already shown they weren't going to move to Mateus to get the housing. In that case, the player has no ground to stand on.

    I'm also more-so on the fence that an FC owning multiple houses is fine, provided they actually make use of the land they own. Such as growing in their gardens, decorating and such. Instead of just buying it for e-flexing power.

    In that respect, I personally believe the separation of "Private" wards and "FC wards" could (on paper) fix a few issues. Splitting apart the house-hunting horde into smaller groups, based on their personal desires. Meaning server burden is more spread out, making it harder for bots to flood that particular district. (Note. Hard, not Impossible.) not to mention less overall competition per plot, meaning chances are higher. (were it not for the Lottery system.. Plenty of fangs on that topic, but I feel i've said my piece about that in other threads)

    Doesn't fix the inherent supply issue we have, which is (again, on paper) an easy fix with just elevating the Apartments to house-esque levels of equality. So that the only reason to buy a ward house is the physical property, rather than gardening / size. But that is a pipe-dream at this point.
    Eh, I tend to teeter away from telling people what to do with their houses. Multi-home owning in general tweaks me the wrong way. (Those that aren't grandfathered at least.) But only because of the limited housing. If SE were to implement instanced housing or add more than enough wards, or even increase the size of apartments, I think this wouldn't be a problem. Who cares if someone owns multiple homes at that point, everyone has reasonable access to housing that isn't a tiny one room apartment.
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