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  1. #251
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    Fawkes's Avatar
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    Fawkes Macleod
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    Excalibur
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Lufir View Post
    You bring up a good point. I haven't seen any requests to change the job icon anywhere. I wonder who/where Yoshi-P is getting these player demands from.
    It's this thread btw.
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  2. #252
    Player KizuyaKatogami's Avatar
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    Kizuya Katogami
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    Cerberus
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    Conjurer Lv 81
    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post

    And as someone who spent most of their school years as the focus of bullies in multiple states, I think I can say that no one in this thread is being bullied. That's laughable.
    I would think someone who was bullied would know that everyone experiences bullying in different ways. Just because you don’t see it doesn’t mean someone else doesn’t see or feel it. There are people in this thread bashing on others for their opinions, saying they have no empathy, saying they’re rude and gross etc. To me, that *is* bullying.

    Irregardless on topic of this, Again, like someone else pointed out. How strange it is that something that’s been in the game forever like the LTW icon people never had an issue with(despite it being much more triggering, even asked a friend who has it to weigh in), but somehow there’s a problem with the sage icon? It really is something.
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  3. #253
    Player Amnmaat's Avatar
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    Loud Jungle
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    Sargatanas
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    Black Mage Lv 60
    There, all nouliths are equal. None of this weird fascination with one noulith at the bottom with a hole haha.
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  4. #254
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    Feiya Harlow
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    Odin
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    Yeah, none of us care in particular about the icon. It is about the reasoning behind it and how it may be affecting other elements of future game design.
    CLEARLY some people very much care about the icon, we're on page 26 and we're apparently not on a slippery slope anymore but in Action Park about to break every bone in our bodies going down it because they made a UI change and who knows what they'll do next? Listen to more player requests? Perish the thought...

    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    I think it should be pretty obvious that I'm not bothered by the change itself so much as the personal attacks and attempt at character assassination of those who dare to hold a different opinion about the event itself.

    If not for that, I'd have said my piece and moved on from the thread. I don't back down when people seek to bully others, though. Especially when it's hidden behind a dangerous and predatory desire to be seen as virtuous.

    It's also possible to be indifferent on an issue and also believe that it's a pointless, unnecessary affair.
    No it's not at all obvious that you're not bothered, but if you say so? Great?

    I don't know if you're implying I'm bullying you or attempting to character assassinate you or different people, I can assure you I'm not.

    Dragging multiple years worth of sexual assault allegations at a different company into this is still gross, though.
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    Last edited by Yencat; 07-31-2021 at 07:46 AM.

  5. #255
    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Exodus
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    I would think someone who was bullied would know that everyone experiences bullying in different ways. Just because you don’t see it doesn’t mean someone else doesn’t see or feel it. There are people in this thread bashing on others for their opinions, saying they have no empathy, saying they’re rude and gross etc. To me, that *is* bullying.

    Irregardless on topic of this, Again, like someone else pointed out. How strange it is that something that’s been in the game forever like the LTW icon people never had an issue with(despite it being much more triggering, even asked a friend who has it to weigh in), but somehow there’s a problem with the sage icon? It really is something.
    It might be that people can easily tell the LTW icon is a hide, and nobody can tell what the Sage icon is because there is no real world counterpart like that (outside of maybe needles). Part of the phobia is fearing what could be lurking in the holes after all.
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  6. #256
    Player KizuyaKatogami's Avatar
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    Kizuya Katogami
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    It might be that people can easily tell the LTW icon is a hide, and nobody can tell what the Sage icon is because there is no real world counterpart like that (outside of maybe needles). Part of the phobia is fearing what could be lurking in the holes after all.
    I asked someone who suffers from it and they told me it’s 100 times worse so…i’m more willing to take their word for it considering they actually suffer from the damn thing.
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  7. #257
    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Exodus
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    I asked someone who suffers from it and they told me it’s 100 times worse so…i’m more willing to take their word for it considering they actually suffer from the damn thing.
    Question, did you tell him it was a hide before or after?
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  8. #258
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    Kaito Nanatsuki
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    Behemoth
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Interesting attitude. But then does that mean we're starting to open up to talking about other types of phobias present in the game? Because they exist and they are there.
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  9. #259
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    Yencat's Avatar
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    Feiya Harlow
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    Odin
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Zequi View Post
    Interesting attitude. But then does that mean we're starting to open up to talking about other types of phobias present in the game? Because they exist and they are there.
    Go ahead, no one is stopping you?
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  10. #260
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    Apothescary Valva
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    Excalibur
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    Summoner Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Zequi View Post
    Interesting attitude. But then does that mean we're starting to open up to talking about other types of phobias present in the game? Because they exist and they are there.
    I am for it. Have already mentioned that the sage's weapon have an eerily medical type syringe/surgical toolaspect to them which kinda creeps me out due to my own experiences. Although at the same time it makes me somewhat fascinated in the class cause it allows me confront it on a different level versus the endless appointments I am subjected to every month.

    So a bad feeling trying to become good by facing my fears which developed cause of my medical history.
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    Solo Deaf Player doing solo deaf player things.

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