Shell FCs are a bigger problem than we think...

[Nepentha]

Because not all first time buyers are buyers of personal estates, and FCs benefit more from a house than personal owners.

I see the goalposts have shifted again. Rather than admit their ideas just won't work, they just shift to another idea.

[Almagnus1]

I see the goalposts have shifted again. Rather than admit their ideas just won't work, they just shift to another idea.

And what ideas have you contributed?

[Nepentha]

And what ideas have you contributed?

Oh I've contributed ideas. You just don't pay attention unless it's your ideas.

The difference between you and I is I want to make the playing field equal. You just want to find a way to get to the small percentage of people who own multiple properties. You don't care how you get that done, so long as it gets done.

Your last terrible idea not only failed miserably in combating resellers and flippers (and multi-home owners), it actually created a small, flourishing underground of placard click bots to be developed. That is your legacy.

[Almagnus1]

Oh I've contributed ideas. You just don't pay attention unless it's your ideas.

You've only started a single thread which states a painfully obvious solution (add more wards). You haven't started any further threads, so I'm guessing these "ideas" are basically barbs at other players based on your interactions.

The difference between you and I is I want to make the playing field equal.

The difference here isn't that we want to make the playing field equal (as I have long advocated for that from a policy perspective), the difference is that I'm actually trying to do something about it.

You just want to find a way to get to the small percentage of people who own multiple properties. You don't care how you get that done, so long as it gets done.

Yeah, that's not true. Main thing with this thread is to identify what exactly a shell FC is, how we can separate out the legitimate FCs so we can identify what of the 10,042 to 27,768 properties are actually shell FCs, and which ones are legitimate micro FCs. There needs to be discussion around what metrics identify a smaller FC from a shell FC so that the greedy people that are tying up these homes and locking out a likely 10k+ people from the housing system can stop doing that.

Given that you (and the rest of the Hate Club) have see anything and everything I post as "bad" (whatever that really means), I expect you to be an obstructionist towards any real efforts that I am putting forth to try to better identify and clarify this issue in hopes that SE will take further action to make this situation better.

Your last terrible idea not only failed miserably in combating resellers and flippers (and multi-home owners), it actually created a small, flourishing underground of placard click bots to be developed.

Eh no. Sometimes it's darkest before the dawn...

A lottery system will be implemented for purchasing housing plots. Relocation rules will be adjusted, and there will be designated areas for purchasing plots via lottery, or first come, first served. These are currently in preparation for the release of the housing area in Ishgard.

Players will only be permitted to enter the lottery if they meet the requirements necessary to own housing. A number of features have been prepared to prevent RMT and troublemaking, such as depositing the gil upfront and disallowing participation on Free Trial accounts. Furthermore, there will be a gil penalty for those who do not purchase a plot after being selected in the lottery. Please note that this penalty will be quite strict.

Additionally, certain areas will be reserved for purchase as personal or free company housing. Details regarding this and other housing-related updates will be shared later.

[Nepentha]

Eh no. Sometimes it's darkest before the dawn...

Finally an admission that your grand placard clicking idea was not at all a grand idea.

[Almagnus1]

Finally an admission that your grand placard clicking idea was not at all a grand idea.

Two thoughts:
1) If you had spent your time thinking and posting ideas instead of attacking me, we'd already be in a housing golden age and many of these issues solved.

2) It's been a rough week at work, so can I have whatever you're smoking? It'd help me relax =)

[Nepentha]

Two thoughts:
1) If you had spent your time thinking and posting ideas instead of attacking me, we'd already be in a housing golden age and many of these issues solved.

2) It's been a rough week at work, so can I have whatever you're smoking? It'd help me relax =)

1. When you stop putting up inane ideas, I will stop responding to say how inane they are.

2. I'm afraid you need more medications than that to bring you back to reality.

[Divinemights]

And what ideas have you contributed?

Since when you ever pay attention or respect what others are saying?
Anyone disagree with you = stalker
Anyone using stronger points = harassment
Anyone ask you to provide support for your claim = ignored

[Almagnus1]

Since when you ever pay attention or respect what others are saying?

I do when most of the post isn't veiled attacks and barbs.

Anyone disagree with you = stalker

No, the stalker is (and always has been) https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...ewPewPewPewPew .

Anyone using stronger points = harassment

Darling (the same as sweetheart, sugar, and other terms of affection) are typically used as pet names for women in a romantic relationship. When you are asked to cease with this behavior, and then cease to do so, that is actually sexual harassment. It's no different than a random dude walking up to a Japanese woman, referring to her with the "chan" suffix, her requesting that he use "san", the guy continuing on with this and being corrected multiple times. It's not endearing, it's rather obnoxious, and there are laws in the US about this kind of behavior. This is one of those RL things where the guy that's doing this is likely to get maced.

Some behavior is legitimate harassment and if someone is asking you to stop doing it, you should do so.

Anyone ask you to provide support for your claim = ignored

When the latest thing that I "failed" to provide support for is information on the definition and proper grammatical usage of the word "we", as in:
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/we

: I and the rest of a group that includes me : you and I : you and I and another or others : I and another or others not including you —used as pronoun of the first person plural

It's generally not worth my time to respond to such trite requests.