Shell FCs are a bigger problem than we think...

[Divinemights]

Yes, like how I posted https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post5617370
and they responded with:



In otherwords, Big_Bap did EXACTLY what you are projecting onto me.

And the icing on the cake here:

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post5618652
When the Japanese are comparing you to Trump... it's time to call it a day.

Except they are not, that guy is simply explaining the situation to rest of his Japanese posters, he is not supporting you.
In matter of fact, most of people there are holders of FC size that is smaller than 4.

[Almagnus1]

Except they are not, that guy is simply explaining the situation to rest of his Japanese posters, he is not supporting you.
In matter of fact, most of people there are holders of FC size that is smaller than 4.

Eh... here's what my browser did for the translation of the quoted text:

I'm looking down on the
thread over there, but I'm told, "A small group of FCs (shell FCs) have a very bad impact on the housing land. Among them, japan DC, especially Chocobo mackerel, has
a large proportion, it's a big problem." "What do you say even if you don't ask japanese people what you think?" I
felt like I was having a barren quarrel from the beginning.
From that
flow,

Apologies, it was coming off a little vague and given that Big_Bap had basically started a troll thread in the Japanese forums to stir up angst against me (and said as much in another thread), I apologize for the confusion.

Shell FC deletion sect sle lord "Big_Bap (E person here) was standing up a vandalism thread in a Japanese forum to incite anger at me (I was saying

that in another thread), I apologize for messing up", so I don't
know if I can believe everything as it is because it is the words of the opposing party (backstory mending), but I thought it would be better not to write anything here anymore. If you are aware of the turbulence of impersonation FC, solo FC, or
its impact on housing, rebuild the thread separately with the appropriate title and description to start the discussion in a healthier way.


Some of the opinions written here were Big_Bap by Mr. Trump, "Look, this is the opinion of
Japan."
I feel like I'm just being used to write an opinion on this thread, so I can't recommend any more posts.

Methinks the takeaway here is that some language translators aren't as good as others, and if it's this bad rendering into English... I'd rather not post in another language on a different part of the forum because... well... the result has got to be just as cringeworth as what's seen here.

[Divinemights]

Eh... here's what my browser did for the translation of the quoted text:
Methinks the takeaway here is that some language translators aren't as good as others, and if it's this bad rendering into English... I'd rather not post in another language on a different part of the forum because... well... the result has got to be just as cringeworth as what's seen here.

Right, you made it sound like google translate will be 100% accurate.... no it is not.

First paragraph he is basically saying this uncivil argument all starts from someone who thinks smaller size FC is an issue and he use your quote to show everyone that you are the one who caused this.
The way he use your quote is telling everyone you are accusing Big Bap being a harassments because he doesn't agree with you.

He finalized his post by saying all the discussion around mis conducts of smaller size FC need to remains civilized, positive and progressive discussion.
If you are unable to do this, he basically telling you to stop posting there and get your ass out of their forum (in a manner way).

You really only read what you want to read.....
Japanese is slapping your face and you are not even realize that.
Google translate....... lmao....
Why do you thinks people spend years in studying foreign language?
Most of Asian languages is complicate where they can use same word to either greet you or insult you depends on how they use them.
This is not something Google translate can catch it.

Oh by the way, this is not stalking or harrasment.
This is just the someone who knows Japanese wake your from your dream.

[Almagnus1]

Right, you made it sound like google translate will be 100% accurate.... no it is not.

There's actually a couple of different translators out there. Just because everyone knows Google, doesn't mean it's the one my browser uses. It does mean, however, that there should be a bug report filed on the atrocious translation.

Japanese is slapping your face and you are not even realize that.

Except... here's the thing... I wasn't the one engaging the Japanese community on that thread... that was all Big_bap. That thread died when it was pointed out that Big_bap was manipulating the Japanese community into giving a desired response to use over here.

[Adula]

Excuse me from the translation tool.
I've read about this on the Japanese forums, but as a Japanese person, I'm not really interested in the topic.

I believe that the shortage of land is the same on every server, and if you really want to build something, you go to an underpopulated server and build it.

So I don't think it's any surprise that there are FC houses and private homes for the purpose of moving, and I don't think that's the cause of the chronic land shortage.

If you're talking about a simple land shortage, I think the problem is the act of one person using multiple accounts to buy large amounts of land.
It's not illegal at all because they are paying for it, but it's a nuisance for people who want land.

In conclusion, as long as there is no illegality and there is a rule of first come, first served on all servers, I think it is nonsense to think that buying land for a small group of FCs or for moving is a problem.

[Nepentha]

Excuse me from the translation tool.
I've read about this on the Japanese forums, but as a Japanese person, I'm not really interested in the topic.

I believe that the shortage of land is the same on every server, and if you really want to build something, you go to an underpopulated server and build it.

So I don't think it's any surprise that there are FC houses and private homes for the purpose of moving, and I don't think that's the cause of the chronic land shortage.

If you're talking about a simple land shortage, I think the problem is the act of one person using multiple accounts to buy large amounts of land.
It's not illegal at all because they are paying for it, but it's a nuisance for people who want land.

In conclusion, as long as there is no illegality and there is a rule of first come, first served on all servers, I think it is nonsense to think that buying land for a small group of FCs or for moving is a problem.

Thank you for taking the time to speak with us. We appreciate your input.

[Almagnus1]

Excuse me from the translation tool.
I've read about this on the Japanese forums, but as a Japanese person, I'm not really interested in the topic.

I believe that the shortage of land is the same on every server, and if you really want to build something, you go to an underpopulated server and build it.

So I don't think it's any surprise that there are FC houses and private homes for the purpose of moving, and I don't think that's the cause of the chronic land shortage.

If you're talking about a simple land shortage, I think the problem is the act of one person using multiple accounts to buy large amounts of land.
It's not illegal at all because they are paying for it, but it's a nuisance for people who want land.

In conclusion, as long as there is no illegality and there is a rule of first come, first served on all servers, I think it is nonsense to think that buying land for a small group of FCs or for moving is a problem.

Except Yoshi-P (and SE) has pointed out numerous times that what they are doing is counter to what is intended with the housing system - especially the sale and transfer of houses.

The data also shows that there is not an insignificant number of players that basically making a vulgar expression of greed by tying up multiple houses through FCs on a single account through the creative uses of FCs.

[MilkieTea]

This is par for the course. They do not seem to grasp that disagreeing, even vehemently, does not equal harassment. Considering their post history is all over these forums, of course people are going to encounter them. Imagine telling JP players how they should feel.

The arrogance.

I don’t even own a house and I find that all of their suggestions have been extremely negative towards house procurement. None of their suggestions benefit first time buyers, personal owners, nor legitimate FCs. ALL of their suggestions seem custom tailored to punish the 5% of “Bad Eggs”, with no thought as to how it affects everyone else.

[Almagnus1]

I don’t even own a house and I find that all of their suggestions have been extremely negative towards house procurement. None of their suggestions benefit first time buyers, personal owners, nor legitimate FCs. ALL of their suggestions seem custom tailored to punish the 5% of “Bad Eggs”, with no thought as to how it affects everyone else.

So... reserving a lion's share of the new wards for personal houses negatively affects first time buyers how?

[MilkieTea]

So... reserving a lion's share of the new wards for personal houses negatively affects first time buyers how?

Because not all first time buyers are buyers of personal estates, and FCs benefit more from a house than personal owners.