SE we got to talk about summoner

[Vahlnir]

Why summoner has to be a (shitty) pet job? Bahamuth and Phoenix are way more summoner esq than the egis.

I would suggest that egis are removed and their moves integrated in to summoners kit.

That's what I want.

[Axxion]

Is that why Reaper is gonna be another pet class?

That being said, I'd like to see Summoner have more focus on actually summoning though instead of being an FF version of WoW's Warlock. Summoning is the first thing that comes to mind when I think of Final Fantasy and to have us be a dot class feels kind of lame.

I'd like more than just five summons. Let me also summon Odin and Alexander, Shiva and Ramuh. Let me summon a Malboro to use bio instead of just casting Bio.

Make Summoner... an actual summoner!

during the reveal, he mentioned that reaper is not going to be one

[Rymi64]

Is that why Reaper is gonna be another pet class?

That being said, I'd like to see Summoner have more focus on actually summoning though instead of being an FF version of WoW's Warlock. Summoning is the first thing that comes to mind when I think of Final Fantasy and to have us be a dot class feels kind of lame.

I'd like more than just five summons. Let me also summon Odin and Alexander, Shiva and Ramuh. Let me summon a Malboro to use bio instead of just casting Bio.

Make Summoner... an actual summoner!

Yoshida doesn't consider reaper to be a pet class.

I honestly like current summoner over old school summoner. Feel like it wouldn't be as much wow factor as it currently is. And if they're doing what it looks like they are doing with having the egi while putting the attacks on the smn that's even better.

[seraf]

The game has its lore reasons why you can’t bring out full on Primals and they won’t change their stance on this ever. I mostly want egi-assaults redone and that’s it. Keep the dots and the ruin stuff but fix egi moves somehow.

[Len]

edit: Nope, I was wrong, and the quoted poster is correct.

It's more clear in the YouTube trailer rather than the looping Imgur gif, but the Egi is still there after Crimson Cyclone. The next shot afterwards shows it much more clearly. If you pause right after the Crimson Cyclone fades, and step through the frames after the camera changes, you can see Ifrit-Egi hanging out next to the Paladin on the left.

...sigh.

Welcome to another 2 years of Egis, I guess. /thumbsup

(wanders off to get a Red Mage weapon)

The developers could very well be leaving egi's in the benchmark tentatively so as to not give away whether or not they will be removed in Endwalker to stave off negative player feedback. It's not out of the realm of possibilities.

The game has its lore reasons why you can’t bring out full on Primals and they won’t change their stance on this ever. I mostly want egi-assaults redone and that’s it. Keep the dots and the ruin stuff but fix egi moves somehow.

No rational Summoner player wants this. Most just want to move away from egis in favor of demi summons.

[Jadedsins]

I know people won't like this, but I would like summoner to be just cool looking spells being cast that show the summon appear do a cool attack and leave. Just like in final fantasy 7.


My husband was telling me about final fantasy 11. How certain spells combos would do extra damage. and have a neat little blast or something. My dream summoner would pay respect to that. You summon elementals to do damage and combo the elements with each other for more damage like 11, but way more advance. That would be sooo cool for me. lol

[Rymi64]

No rational Summoner player wants this. Most just want to move away from egis in favor of demi summons.

If everything is a demi summon then that just takes away the wow factor of demi summons. Unless you mean you want egis to use the demi auto attack system which would be fine. Plus even if they do that i don't think they would give us more summons like other summoners want.

[ReynTime]

The game has its lore reasons why you can’t bring out full on Primals and they won’t change their stance on this ever. I mostly want egi-assaults redone and that’s it. Keep the dots and the ruin stuff but fix egi moves somehow.

Lore didn't stop them from butchering Astrologian.

[Shougun]

If everything is a demi summon then that just takes away the wow factor of demi summons. Unless you mean you want egis to use the demi auto attack system which would be fine. Plus even if they do that i don't think they would give us more summons like other summoners want.

In the case of this particular job I'd have to disagree, all the summons in single player games were epic or quite cute / goofy. There wasn't this idea of "gotta be careful for players not to think these aren't wow". The longest most absurb collection of spells was always concentrated in summoner and they were very often the first ones to start being crazy and continued the entire duration of the job.

Grand spectacle is pretty much a requirement if you were sincerely recreating summoner.

If anything, if it's not epic then it's less summoner than majority of summoners.


That said people need to see the screen, for self and others, and having a two minute cutscenes deal two damage was silly in single player games and it would be silly here too. So 100% scale primal, a thing which I don't think I've ever seen anyone honestly ask for ever, would not be a good idea.

[Caitlyn]

I hate to say this but: Can we just go back and got our jobs back how they were in Stormblood?