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    Player Rinhi's Avatar
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    Dec 2020
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    Gridania
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    Rinh Neftereh
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    Excalibur
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    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by MiaShino View Post
    Wat? What the heck does "bring balance to the social elements of the game" even mean? Dead weight forces people to interact? They should be doing that already no?
    a quick fyi: he's saying it because his wife is actively and knowingly not using half (most?) of her abilities because "she doesn't like the look of them" and how people using DF should be expected to run and carry those kind of players

    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    I'm reasonably sure that the request being discussed is referring to DF runs and the like where you don't really have control over your party members. People who are receptive to improvement aren't who the topic was created for and the people who need the improvement and refuse to change aren't likely going to be lured in by even stricter optional runs even if you dangle some tasty carrots in front of them. They're just trying to pass, not make deans list.

    Having optional objective rewards sounds fun and like something to add "content" using existing resources, but wouldn't affect the problem population this topic is about.
    exactly! and that's why some of those ideas, as good as they are on paper, would be useless in practice because it's a mentality thing and not a reward thing
    truth to be told, I don't even think players would have an issue with underperforming players THAT much (unless it's like, really noticeable) if those players, at least in my experience, wouldn't also be the ones who are being toxic to the rest of the party/raid when people offer help or tips - or even just asking if they want any
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    Last edited by Rinhi; 07-13-2021 at 06:39 PM.