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    My question is, why not use the belt solution more? Evaluate everything that is important/needed/relevant at this point in the games life cycle and delete the rest. And maybe come up with solutions to delete even more. The other solution is they could do what 11 does. Which feels like you vendor the gear to an NPC and then you buy it back from the NPC for what you got for vendoring it.



    Or would it be game breaking to have an expansion NPC similar to calamity. You completed X dungeon/raidit unlocks the gear on the npc and for a few gil you can rebuy the piece you want. We can do it with Makai stuff now on Calamity. I do think one expansion behind though. So add the NPC in the X.1 patch. So not exactly convenient or a quality of life thing. You would only have to save Mogstation items and crafted items. And the crafted items just the stuff with obnoxious to get ingredients.


    Quote Originally Posted by StriderShinryu View Post
    Okay. As others have already said, though, would you be willing to trade a new, say, cosmetic glamour system and a new housing system for 12 months of basically no new playable content? If you would, how many other players would be?

    How many months from last real patch to expansion? Roughly 6 months we covered half of your 12 already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonlite View Post
    My question is, why not use the belt solution more? Evaluate everything that is important/needed/relevant at this point in the games life cycle and delete the rest. And maybe come up with solutions to delete even more. The other solution is they could do what 11 does. Which feels like you vendor the gear to an NPC and then you buy it back from the NPC for what you got for vendoring it.



    Or would it be game breaking to have an expansion NPC similar to calamity. You completed X dungeon/raidit unlocks the gear on the npc and for a few gil you can rebuy the piece you want. We can do it with Makai stuff now on Calamity. I do think one expansion behind though. So add the NPC in the X.1 patch. So not exactly convenient or a quality of life thing. You would only have to save Mogstation items and crafted items. And the crafted items just the stuff with obnoxious to get ingredients.
    They would still have to flag on your character every item you've ever had bound to you, and I think that's part of the problem with making a glamour log system.

    As quoted from the OP:

    Q - We have so much equipment in the game but it feels such a waste because it's either we equip them or glamour them. Is there another use for those items like having them registered as a glamour entry in a catalog? By the way, my glamour dresser is almost full.

    A - This stabs YoshiP hard because it digs up the old idea YoshiP once had

    OOF. Ouch, this definitely hurts as you're bringing back the old idea of a glamour log... I mean, we wanted to do so! We even had the text and all ready!

    We cannot include them all because it's too full and the data ccouldn't handle it...I mean if we can somehow make it work it'd be nice but....we're definitely out of space to save such data....we definitely want to realize it one day but....yeah, I'm sorry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SniperCT View Post
    They would still have to flag on your character every item you've ever had bound to you, and I think that's part of the problem with making a glamour log system.

    As quoted from the OP:

    Remember the game tracks every item I have ever crafted though already. It also changes what crafting options I have. So they did implement one large tracking system and it grows every expansion as well. Not like the original hunting logs. That was why I asked about vendors and a basic unlock system. Do I really need to have gotten X boots if I completed something. Specially if the vendors are updating only after a certain time period has past. They would have to add some sort of tracking mechanism. I believe it was a title for Makai gear that is on Calamity.



    I get that we can't have a magic wand wave situation. But they have to have solutions that are possible in the current framework, besides cash shop more retainers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonlite View Post

    How many months from last real patch to expansion? Roughly 6 months we covered half of your 12 already.
    Have you? What do you consider a "real" patch?

    are you ready for absolutely NO content for a year though?

    No new seasonal event additions at all (just a straight rehash if at all), no small drops of fixes or side content, no new cosmetics of any kind, no content full stop.

    This is likely ARR level reworks of how systems work.. possibly deeper. Everything from the retainers to housing will have to change if you touch the item databases.

    The company has to be ready to invest that kind of money on that kind of halt and the players need to be willing to weather that (or they might just stop subbing, which would hurt the company even more) for that goal.


    Now do you think all that... or maybe just investing in the "next" game is what the people with the money making the decisions are gonna choose?


    Sure we all WANT a system that solves inventory problems AND gives us an unlimited glamour log. But how many of us are willing to weather what it'll take to do it? What is the companies incentive to do so that we can rally behind?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonlite View Post
    How many months from last real patch to expansion? Roughly 6 months we covered half of your 12 already.
    That would be ignoring that it's 6 months between 5.55 and Endwalker, the beginning of a whole new Expansion cycle, in the example you quoted, the question posed was 12 months of nothing for a new cosmetic glamour system and a new housing system, so no, we'd be halfway to nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItMe View Post
    It's worse than that...
    FF14 still has code left over from FF11.
    Some of the code FF14 is running on was developed in 1999!

    I would not be surprised!

    Quote Originally Posted by BlitzAceRush View Post
    That would be ignoring that it's 6 months between 5.55 and Endwalker, the beginning of a whole new Expansion cycle, in the example you quoted, the question posed was 12 months of nothing for a new cosmetic glamour system and a new housing system, so no, we'd be halfway to nothing.
    Plus we've already had a small patch, and there are going to be multiple events between now and november. Remove those, imagine 12 months of nothing new.

    You want an example of a year with almost no updates?

    Wow's 5.4 patch lasted from september 2013 to october 2014 (for WoD's prepatch). Or 13 months

    The only update in that time was to add the in game shop.

    Players damn near rioted and all we got out of it was a generally panned expansion.

    Then they did it again, 6.2 in June 2015, Legion prepatch in July 2016 with nothing in between. Player reaction was even worse but we at least got a good expansion out of it.

    But both events I think seriously helped to damage the game. 9.0-9.1 was almost two of wow's normal patch cycles in lengths and players have .... been very unhappy, as we've seen from the influx.

    A 12 month drought in FF14 would for sure damage this game, especially if we didn't get any new content out of it and just basically database and coding fixes.
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