Please implement something to teach players how to play

[Kes13a]

It's under Prohibited Actions of the ToS-> Obstruction of Play. You are preventing people from progressing with the game by purposefully pulling single group of mobs.

excuse me what? you mean not progressing as fast as you want.... because last I checked, finishing the run is progressing. amount pulled depends on playstyle, so its your view that both healer and tank should be stressed because they arent going fast enough for you?

[Kaylal]

excuse me what? you mean not progressing as fast as you want.... because last I checked, finishing the run is progressing. amount pulled depends on playstyle, so its your view that both healer and tank should be stressed because they arent going fast enough for you?

You're so right. This is a perfect example of a long-term FF14 player who knows the system inside out, and considers any other playstyle "wrong". Which, if nothing else, is a selfish attitude. As a player who has just transitioned from WoW, the tank charging about gathering everything in sight is horrifying. That's how you wipe! Then there's the other element; WHY are you in such a rush?? So you can go do other stuff and get more mad lootz?? OK, that's what tickles your fancy and that's fine...but it's not what I'm after. I'm after the story. After all, I never intend to come back to this dungeon because I *don't* like group content. And that's MY playstyle...

Honestly, this is the one factor that may force me to go back to WoW; toxic and grindy, and stupid as it is. There, I don't have to do dungeons if I don't want to. I'm not going to get the best loot and that's fine; I don't need it for open world content. But in FF14 if I want to advance the story, I have no choice; I HAVE to do group content. I have a level 36 character at the moment who hasn't been contacted by a Grand Company...whatever that is, who can't get a mount, who has no idea where to go to see more of the main story and I think I've figured out that it's because I haven't done any dungeons beyond Tam-Tara (although nowhere is that stated in exactly those words...not in any doco, website, youtube video, tutorial or anywhere else). And that makes me very uncomfortable for exactly the expectations expressed by some in this thread. "You're not doing it right!" I don't want to bother other people by not playing they way they expect me to. Nor do I want to have to rely on others to play through the game; I just want to be left alone.

Kes13a is correct; the only way to NOT do any content correctly is if you wipe and don't complete it, and hopefully if that happens all the players learn something. There's an element of finishing it in a reasonable amount of time as well, I will concede that. But if we finish in 20 minutes instead of 15, what does it really matter?? This is a game, for goodness sake, and one that gives nothing tangible. It's just us First World people wasting time for our pleasure; we don't need to do this to earn a living.

[SniperCT]

Define 'wrong'

As a tank I keep every mob on me no dropped aggro, but I only did 1-2 packs at a time and not wall to wall. Am I wrong for going at a pace I feel comfortable with and know I will get everyone through the content.

As a DPS am I wrong for singling out that Wasp that has a near OHK first before aoeing everything the tank brought together. Does it take a few extra seconds to get through everything yes, but I killed something that could have messed up how the group was rolling.

As a healer I throw out a GCD barrier a bit more often because I want a little more 'cushion' on the tank's health just incase someone misses a wasp sting or similar, my DPS is slightly down but I minimized the chance of a hiccup, lagspike, etc screwing my healing up by being slightly proactive.

They might not be 'optimal' in many people's eyes, but are those playstyles truly 'wrong'...no.

When tanking or healing I put MARKERS up on those bees in Qarn and tell the DPS to focus fire them lol

I have a level 36 character at the moment who hasn't been contacted by a Grand Company...whatever that is, who can't get a mount, who has no idea where to go to see more of the main story and I think I've figured out that it's because I haven't done any dungeons beyond Tam-Tara (although nowhere is that stated in exactly those words...not in any doco, website, youtube video, tutorial or anywhere else). And that makes me very uncomfortable for exactly the expectations expressed by some in this thread. "You're not doing it right!" I don't want to bother other people by not playing they way they expect me to. Nor do I want to have to rely on others to play through the game; I just want to be left alone.

Check the upper left of your screen there's supposed to be a little button that tells you where to go next in the MSQ

Yes, the chocobo and etc opens up as you do the MSQ. You will on occasion have to do duty finder. Several trials (single boss fights) and a dungeon or two every once in awhile. There are three between 15 and 20, a trial at 20, 2 dungeons in the 20s, 1 dungeon and trial in the 30s, etc(at 50 are 2 special dungeons that...just follow along they tend to be hectic but are faceroll and square never did anything like them again. Players do them on repeat for huge XP bonuses for alt classes.). each series of patches adds a trial and dungeon or two over the course of an expansion's life. At 50 you'll also have to do the Crystal Tower alliance raid but it's roughly LFR difficulty and most runs are pretty smooth.

MOST runs will be smooth and MOST players will be polite and offer tips and friendly advice, I think the people on the forums are extra salty but the same can be said of every MMO. I at least try to be nice to people.

[Kes13a]

Honestly, this is the one factor that may force me to go back to WoW; toxic and grindy, and stupid as it is. There, I don't have to do dungeons if I don't want to. I'm not going to get the best loot and that's fine; I don't need it for open world content. But in FF14 if I want to advance the story, I have no choice; I HAVE to do group content. I have a level 36 character at the moment who hasn't been contacted by a Grand Company...whatever that is, who can't get a mount, who has no idea where to go to see more of the main story and I think I've figured out that it's because I haven't done any dungeons beyond Tam-Tara (although nowhere is that stated in exactly those words...not in any doco, website, youtube video, tutorial or anywhere else). And that makes me very uncomfortable for exactly the expectations expressed by some in this thread. "You're not doing it right!" I don't want to bother other people by not playing they way they expect me to. Nor do I want to have to rely on others to play through the game; I just want to be left alone.

Kaylal, if you do a google for lancer job quests or drg when you get there, it will tell you places you need to go for your jobs. usually if you check out any blue quest icons you see, those are quite often going to be dungeons you can do along the way.

As for the GC/chocobo, it comes in later now because xp is pretty generous, so although I think it says level 20-25ish, its easy, and likely, you get directed there well past that level. I think when I made another character to run with a friend we were late 30's before we joined a grand company and got the chocobo. If you were on Crystal data center would take you places to make sure you are getting things.

[SniperCT]

Kaylal, if you do a google for lancer job quests or drg when you get there, it will tell you places you need to go for your jobs. usually if you check out any blue quest icons you see, those are quite often going to be dungeons you can do along the way.

As for the GC/chocobo, it comes in later now because xp is pretty generous, so although I think it says level 20-25ish, its easy, and likely, you get directed there well past that level. I think when I made another character to run with a friend we were late 30's before we joined a grand company and got the chocobo. If you were on Crystal data center would take you places to make sure you are getting things.

GC and chocobo stuff comes pretty much after bowl of embers (ifrit).