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    What I am trying to say is that the burden of proof is on the accuser and objectively it would be hard to prove their intent was to personal grief or bully another individual. Do not get me wrong it does happen and I am guilty of it myself I have camped someone in classic WoW for five days straight each time they logged on. Yes I was bullying this person and I cleared stated that was my intent. What irks me is when people make an assumption based around their own interruption of the situation to come up with a conclusion as to why they are doing X. Often times I think our own personal bias makes such calls generally hard to make. Granted I am also not a fan of the court of public opinion.

    X behavior does not always lead to Y conclusion.

    Yes even in WoW ganking lower levels was a means to get higher levels out to farm honor. Trying to force Wpvp was sometimes the only way to get the alliance out of their main cities so even that had a purpose. I get a person is playing the character but if someone rolls on a pvp server or logs into a pvp match they should be well aware of what that means. End of story.

    Yes I am a jerk and yes I do have ASPD. In the end the only objective thing we can follow are the rules set by the devs and rules we all agree upon when we log in. The rest is based around irrelevant moral calculus. It is moot cause it was not a Agreed upon standard. People who roll on a pvp server or take part in pvp should expect pvp to happen.

    In the end I do think intent should be taken into consideration. I guess overall my stance is I rather people not make assumptions based around my actions especially because I am fairly transparent with my actions. Nor do I think it is fair to attribute my actions or view them under a moral framework I did not agree to under a general social contract. I get you have opinion and views by sadly they are moot if one is operating under the agreed upon rules set by the devs.

    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    Ever hear of the fable of the dog in the manger?

    You just proved my point.
    Do not follow cause I do gain something enjoyment. I have use for enjoyment. Enjoyment does have value not like it has a cap like other forms of wealth. So putting others ahead of ones own enjoyment sure may be selfish but I also do not agree being g selfish is inherently wrong or enmoral either.

    In the end your stance requires me to care about the wellbeing of another.
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    Last edited by Awha; 07-06-2021 at 11:48 AM.