Open World PvP

[Theodric]

I think it's pretty strange for some players to accuse people of supporting 'bullying' because they happen to like PvP. Especially when there's many PvP enthusiasts who adhere to a sense of good sportsmanship.

I'm inclined to think that this is just yet another case of a vocal portion of the FFXIV community seeking to engage in a type of gatekeeping that disallows growth and varied content from manifesting because they cannot handle the simple fact that other people might want to see and enjoy something different to themselves.

I'm also not at all surprised that there's players in this game who are more concerned by the idea of PvP than abhorrent, inappropriate and highly illegal acts of ERP, though!

[Arrius]

I think it's pretty strange for some players to accuse people of supporting 'bullying' because they happen to like PvP. Especially when there's many PvP enthusiasts who adhere to a sense of good sportsmanship.

It requires only a single one to ruin the fun for a dozen, you should know that already from other various titles.
Besides that, PvP is always a hotbed of attitude, trolling and memes, and we really don't need this.

[Caurcas]

It requires only a single one to ruin the fun for a dozen, you should know that already from other various titles.
Besides that, PvP is always a hotbed of attitude, trolling and memes, and we really don't need this.

Actually, I've found the more you try and constrict something the more "toxic" it becomes.

[Theodric]

It requires only a single one to ruin the fun for a dozen, you should know that already from other various titles.
Besides that, PvP is always a hotbed of attitude, trolling and memes, and we really don't need this.

I don't go through life shying away from situations because someone else might do something I dislike.

PvP is an entirely optional part of the game. Those who dislike it do not have to partake of it.

Even many single player games have a multiplayer experience tacked on because players enjoy interacting and competing with one another. Not every player but enough to make it worthwhile.

FFXIV already has PvP worked into the game. It could be expanded for those who enjoy it. Which, in turn, would allow for a greater variety of players to be appeased and catered to.

[Artemiz]

FFXIV already has PvP worked into the game. It could be expanded for those who enjoy it. Which, in turn, would allow for a greater variety of players to be appeased and catered to.

The development team have already announced they are doing something for PvP in the next expansion, I don't think many people have a problem with that. There is a huge difference though between improving how it works now and turning all open world content PvP. Even if you have to opt in, balance would have to be addressed for everyone, not just those who want it.

[ElciaDeiLinus]

I think it's pretty strange for some players to accuse people of supporting 'bullying' because they happen to like PvP. Especially when there's many PvP enthusiasts who adhere to a sense of good sportsmanship.

I'm inclined to think that this is just yet another case of a vocal portion of the FFXIV community seeking to engage in a type of gatekeeping that disallows growth and varied content from manifesting because they cannot handle the simple fact that other people might want to see and enjoy something different to themselves.

I'm also not at all surprised that there's players in this game who are more concerned by the idea of PvP than abhorrent, inappropriate and highly illegal acts of ERP, though!

Well, we aren't talking about pvp here though with good sportsmanship- we're talking about wpvp which has always been the opposite. Unless it's fully opt in, wpvp is always going to be about stronger players destroying weaker ones, which does generally look like bullying.

Personally I wouldn't be against opt in wpvp servers, but I feel like that'd be a headache SE doesn't want, it just seems to create problems in every game. I'd absolutely be against making all servers have wpvp, since most players don't want it.

Furthermore- wpvp would have to work utterly different from how pvp currently works- since current pvp gives you standardized level/gear/abilities, but in the open world you'd have your pve gear/level/abilities. It would be very imbalanced, and either SE would have to put a considerable effort into balancing it (potentially at the cost of other things), or they'd leave it as is and we'd have to deal with people constantly complaining about their job's viability in wpvp.