Relo mechanics are Cancer

[elioaiko]

Ngl, your post comes off as bitter. I get it, having someone relo their house onto a plot that you and several others were waiting on is frustrating and irritating. But you have to remember that that same person probably went through the same thing and suffered for it.

Relo in itself is not an issue. Because it opens up, another plot so it's not like anyone is taking another plot, they simply moved to another one.

Rather than sit on a plot that you want, you should probably find somewhere with less people and get your better chances there and relo to another location that you like better.

Housing is rough, but deleting relo or punishing everyone for it is unnecessary. Because in the same breath, once you get a house, you'll be glad relo exists.

[Almagnus1]

The data would disagree. We only have 1 data center, split into two subs with Shb and both Light and Chaos is well balanced populated.

But we don't need another dc. At least not right now.

You think this is mostly a NA problem then?

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if that were the case given how culturally significant it is in the US to get your own house.

[ItMe]

You think this is mostly a NA problem then?

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if that were the case given how culturally significant it is in the US to get your own house.

Also the US servers have a WAY higher population.
Sargatanas is one of the smaller US servers, but its population is on par with Tonberry, one of the larger JP ones.

[Themarvin]

I fail to see how relocation can ever be an issue, if someone moves from Shirogane to the Mist... then you would free up the one, once had in Shirogane, relocation does not effect the current amount of houses other than moving property to another area.

Alternative would be to remove timers from housing, but then you invite RMT.

[Themarvin]

It's the timer that needs to go. Re-think the whole system.

"Camping is so fun that people should each get to do it several times over, instead of once" is NOT the answer.

The timer on buying a new house or an available plot is not good, it was removed because it was exploited severe for RMT, and over priced sales of Housing Plots, the timer should stay, if you want to resolve auto-clickers and botting at these houses, suggest putting in a max 1 click per hour per plot, that would flush out all the bots, also... the amount of 1 person FC's people ending selling those get fat in real life £££$$$€€€ out of it or often insane amounts of gil that they either keep or sell to gold sellers... and now and then ending falling in trap for that stuff themself, getting their account hi-jacked and then later on you get weird URL's in text messages from people you don't even know.

Remove camping by reducing the ability to spam/flood the server, is the best start, but keep the timers, so it is next to impossible to get into real estate business, as it is, is technically at some levels even in conflict with the terms of use.

[Sotaris]

You think this is mostly a NA problem then?

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if that were the case given how culturally significant it is in the US to get your own house.

I can't say. I'm not keeping track of NA since I play and live in EU.
But it's not like we have multiple servers full all day long so I don't think we have a overpopulation issue -- in EU.

[ItMe]

I can't say. I'm not keeping track of NA since I play and live in EU.
But it's not like we have multiple servers full all day long so I don't think we have a overpopulation issue -- in EU.

Really?
Oh my god I don't even remember the last time I didn't have a login que...

[Sotaris]

We have login queues, but it usually 10-30 people. You'll be online in like 1 minute tops.

[Jojoya]

I can't say. I'm not keeping track of NA since I play and live in EU.
But it's not like we have multiple servers full all day long so I don't think we have a overpopulation issue -- in EU.

Population issues are really only apparent at the start of an expansion when everyone wants to be playing to see the new content. Things calm down considerably later into the expansion.

When it comes to discussing housing, "overcrowded" has more to do with the active players versus available houses as opposed to how many players in general a world server can accommodate at a time.

Really?
Oh my god I don't even remember the last time I didn't have a login que...

I don't think the log in queues we're currently seeing are due to the number of players already online for a world but rather the number of players trying to log on a character at a given moment. I get the same "Place in queue: 20-40" message whether I'm logging in at 6am or 5pm while if I'm trying to log in right as a hot fix maintenance ends at 2am in the morning, I'll get "Place in queue: 600-1000+".

There are a lot more players online at 5pm than 2am so it's not related to total online population.

[azura84]

I fail to see how relocation can ever be an issue, if someone moves from Shirogane to the Mist... then you would free up the one, once had in Shirogane, relocation does not effect the current amount of houses other than moving property to another area.

Alternative would be to remove timers from housing, but then you invite RMT.

the problem with relo and the current invisible timer is you have people who can relocate without waiting like everyone else, so on hour 12 of a plot being open and 15 people waiting to buy it one person comes over and relocates into the plot, resetting the timer on the new open plot and wasting everyones time. For players wanting to relocate there needs to be a small window at the start of a plot opening for them to relocate, after that 1-3hrs window closes they should be required to join the rest of us in trying to get the house by clicking and waiting.