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  1. #71
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malk77 View Post
    Or maybe just be happy you have a house already and stop screwing over house hunters?
    How often do people actually relocate though? Unless they want to upgrade to a larger house or get to the area they initially wanted.

    I could only suggest the new open plot, after relocation starts at the same timer as the bought plot instead of starting at 0 again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arohk View Post
    How often do people actually relocate though? Unless they want to upgrade to a larger house or get to the area they initially wanted.

    I could only suggest the new open plot, after relocation starts at the same timer as the bought plot instead of starting at 0 again.
    All. The. Time. Five times in the last eight days. Zero celebration from the house hunters, who are generally pretty good about congratulating someone who managed to get a plot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malk77 View Post
    All. The. Time. Five times in the last eight days. Zero celebration from the house hunters, who are generally pretty good about congratulating someone who managed to get a plot.
    That's probably not one player relocating 5 times in 8 days. That's more likely to be 5 different players, each relocating for the first time because it's rarely worth relocating small to small to small.

    Like I pointed out in the other thread, most of those who relocate already completed multiple sessions of Housing Savage to get a house. They're also having to pay a second time to purchase the plot because the discount from their old plot is likely only 10% of the plot price.

    You're getting angry at the wrong people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    That's more likely to be 5 different players, each relocating for the first time because it's rarely worth relocating small to small to small.
    Do you have data to back up this point?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malk77 View Post
    It's funny that people who already have houses think relocation is fine. Meanwhile I've been sniped four times in the last week by jerk relocators.
    The players most likely to resist the removal of relocation’s bypass-timer privilege are recent house buyers, because a dream-home buying process on populated server is practically 2+ steps:

    - get any plots you can get at any of the 4 housing area (= most likely ones with 3 mil starting price at Goblet, LB, or Mist.)
    - relocate when you find a good plot opened up in the housing area you originally wanted.

    Unless you’re super lucky, it’s practically impossible to start out with a dream plot as your first, so people relocate. Thus it becomes even less likely that you’d get a desirable plot as your first. And it turns into a chicken and egg problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    Do you have data to back up this point?
    Do you have the data to show it is always one player relocate 5 times just to grief?
    I don't think so
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    It’s a two step process as is to get a dream/better plot. Taking away relocating only evens the field for first time buyers. Not those that already succeeded in step 1.

    Not impossible to land first plot. It in fact is much harder to get your dream plot.

    IE keep same system and if you don’t like spamming placards then well, don’t? Idk it’s your sub. Spend it how you like lol.
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    Suppose it could be the same person relocating to new spots when they identify potential customers for their retainers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    Do you have the data to show it is always one player relocate 5 times just to grief?
    I don't think so
    Did it ever occur to you that asking for data showing people relocating (in this case, the assumed 5 in the example) would actually strengthen Jojoya's position?

    Did it also occur to you that maybe I'm asking for that data as making it more generally available would help transition the board away from these idiotic assumptions into a more data drive discussion?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    That's probably not one player relocating 5 times in 8 days. That's more likely to be 5 different players, each relocating for the first time because it's rarely worth relocating small to small to small.

    Like I pointed out in the other thread, most of those who relocate already completed multiple sessions of Housing Savage to get a house. They're also having to pay a second time to purchase the plot because the discount from their old plot is likely only 10% of the plot price.

    You're getting angry at the wrong people.
    I'm not. I'm annoyed with the relocaters, and I'm annoyed with SE for letting them do it. Every relocate just increases the amount of time it takes for a new owner to buy a plot. This does not help the housing situation in any way, shape, or form.
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