Relo mechanics are Cancer

[Malk77]

It's funny that people who already have houses think relocation is fine. Meanwhile I've been sniped four times in the last week by jerk relocators.

[Almagnus1]

It's funny that people who already have houses think relocation is fine. Meanwhile I've been sniped four times in the last week by jerk relocators.

There's a lot of people in housing that are the "haves" and they want to make it exceedingly difficult for the "have nots" to join them.

And Hydaelyn forbid if you dare suggest to even the playing field....

[Seleni]

It's funny that people who already have houses think relocation is fine. Meanwhile I've been sniped four times in the last week by jerk relocators.

The players most likely to resist the removal of relocation’s bypass-timer privilege are recent house buyers, because a dream-home buying process on populated server is practically 2+ steps:

- get any plots you can get at any of the 4 housing area (= most likely ones with 3 mil starting price at Goblet, LB, or Mist.)
- relocate when you find a good plot opened up in the housing area you originally wanted.

Unless you’re super lucky, it’s practically impossible to start out with a dream plot as your first, so people relocate. Thus it becomes even less likely that you’d get a desirable plot as your first. And it turns into a chicken and egg problem.

[Kenky]

It's funny that people who already have houses think relocation is fine. Meanwhile I've been sniped four times in the last week by jerk relocators.

The issue you have here is pretty simple. Plenty of players have purchased less-than-desirable plots (to maximize their chances) and don't want to stay there. Once you own a house, you can then start looking around for your personal 'favorite plot' and work to move there. The people that "snipe" plots find the plot you're trying to buy far more favorable than their own. (Goblet plot 58 is usually despised given its location as an example, so anything other than plot 58 is an upgrade) Though there are people that obviously abuse this system purely for shiggles.. That just cannot be helped, sadly.

While I am firmly in the camp that we don't need to Relocate multiple times a day (I personally think once a week is a better option, as it would sync up with the weekly reset.) removing the Relocation system in its entirety would be damaging more than anything else. Because then it would no longer be "hunting for any vacant plot" but "hunting for your preferred plot only". That would reduce your chances of getting a house to essentially zero.

[Arohk]

Or maybe just be happy you have a house already and stop screwing over house hunters?

How often do people actually relocate though? Unless they want to upgrade to a larger house or get to the area they initially wanted.

I could only suggest the new open plot, after relocation starts at the same timer as the bought plot instead of starting at 0 again.

[Malk77]

How often do people actually relocate though? Unless they want to upgrade to a larger house or get to the area they initially wanted.

I could only suggest the new open plot, after relocation starts at the same timer as the bought plot instead of starting at 0 again.

All. The. Time. Five times in the last eight days. Zero celebration from the house hunters, who are generally pretty good about congratulating someone who managed to get a plot.

[Jojoya]

All. The. Time. Five times in the last eight days. Zero celebration from the house hunters, who are generally pretty good about congratulating someone who managed to get a plot.

That's probably not one player relocating 5 times in 8 days. That's more likely to be 5 different players, each relocating for the first time because it's rarely worth relocating small to small to small.

Like I pointed out in the other thread, most of those who relocate already completed multiple sessions of Housing Savage to get a house. They're also having to pay a second time to purchase the plot because the discount from their old plot is likely only 10% of the plot price.

You're getting angry at the wrong people.

[Almagnus1]

That's more likely to be 5 different players, each relocating for the first time because it's rarely worth relocating small to small to small.

Do you have data to back up this point?

[Divinemights]

Do you have data to back up this point?

Do you have the data to show it is always one player relocate 5 times just to grief?
I don't think so

[Jojoya]

Do you have data to back up this point?

My data is "common sense".

What's your data to prove it's the same player who relocated to each of those 5 plots?

Not sure why you felt asking such a stupid question would lead to constructive discussion.

I'm not. I'm annoyed with the relocaters, and I'm annoyed with SE for letting them do it. Every relocate just increases the amount of time it takes for a new owner to buy a plot. This does not help the housing situation in any way, shape, or form.

Relocation helps with some of the other problems that used to come from housing, like FC disbandment and needing to totally clear out inventory on multiple retainers to make room for housing items that had been placed. It reduces the number of players turning to flippers to get their dream plot (though flipping will never completely disappear as long as supply of any size house is less than the demand).

Once you get a house, you too will be able to relocate to a plot you like better if it becomes available. You will have already paid your Housing Savage dues.

There are only two things that will take away the headaches you're experiencing right now as you try to buy: SE deletes the ward system altogether or SE fixes the supply problem. I doubt the former will ever happen since it would make hundreds of thousands of players extremely unhappy so we need to focus SE's attention on doing the latter.

Other MMOs do not have this problem with housing. Neither should FFXIV.