Revelations from Patch 5.5 (Part 2)

[Crushnight]

That word again, eh? Well, I suppose it's all a matter of perspective ultimately. Much like humans in the real world, realistic characters in fictional settings are complex and hypocritical.

Personally I don't need a character to grovel in apology for their past actions in order to find them relatable, interesting or sympathetic. I'm also inclined to think that there's plenty of threads present in advance to suggest that a character is worthy of a second look instead of being immediately branded 'unforgivable' and 'unhinged'.

I'm reminded of Yotsuyu and how many here claimed she had zero redeeming qualities or reason for doing what she did only for 4.3 to further highlight already present elements of her backstory and suddenly the tune changed quite drastically.

I suspect we'll see a similar situation come into play with Fourchenault.

To her dying breath I hated Yotsuyu, her only saving graces was she made Goesetsu a better character, all my dialogue choices always reflected that, I cared about Goesetsu not Yotsuyu or Tsuyu, her other saving grace is her boss fight is fun.

Fourchenault did a jerk move here but he isn't irredeemable like Yotsuyu was, I believe he disowned his children to manipulate them into coming home, I am positive he knows his own daughter well enough to know she is headstrong and would want an answer from him, now whether or not he wants them to come home for their protection or to change the Forum's mind on something he personally doesn't approve of is pure speculation.

That said I do still want to call him out or punch him because he looked down on my character the man was a jerk.

[Bright-Flower]

To her dying breath I hated Yotsuyu, her only saving graces was she made Goesetsu a better character, all my dialogue choices always reflected that, I cared about Goesetsu not Yotsuyu or Tsuyu, her other saving grace is her boss fight is fun.

Fourchenault did a jerk move here but he isn't irredeemable like Yotsuyu was, I believe he disowned his children to manipulate them into coming home, I am positive he knows his own daughter well enough to know she is headstrong and would want an answer from him, now whether or not he wants them to come home for their protection or to change the Forum's mind on something he personally doesn't approve of is pure speculation.

That said I do still want to call him out or punch him because he looked down on my character the man was a jerk.

Same in regards to Yotsuyu, except I'd say she had one more redeeming quality, taking Asahi out of the story with her. Even if his body is being repurposed now.

There were the bones of a compelling story and good character there. But they made the classic mistake of going in too hard too fast with the evil. Like, when you're coercing peasants to murder eachother for your own amusement, simply because they're from the same NATION that wronged you, who had NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT YOU WENT THROUGH PERSONALLY I find it kind of hard to care about her admittedly legitimately messed up background. Trauma is not an excuse to murder and torture people.

Same thing with the roe traitor person from Bozja whose name escapes me at the moment, they had her go in too far with the sadism after her betrayal for me to consider the option of 'it was the commanding officer's fault actually don't execute her.'

This is something you see a lot in some games and anime where they try to redeem a character with a sad backstory or something, but they went too far with the intial evil and sadistic nature of them for me to care. A sad backstory is not an excuse for being a terrible person.