Thread: Revelations from Patch 5.5 (Part 2)

Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami

Why do people keep acting like alphy and alisaie are their irl kids? :think: that’s really weird to me. Irregardless, even Graha comments that something is up with their dad. The way he acted in the patch is unlike what both the EE and Alisaie herself comments on in SB,so i’m pretty sure he’s trying to protect them. Don’t see any reason to be aggressive towards him. Especially because we’ve literally only seen the man for 5 minutes. If the WoL acted like some of the people want to...i don’t think we’d be much of a “hero” lmao.

I feel protective over them and it angers me that someone attacked them for no reason, particularly someone they love and trust. The "my kids" is just shorthand to express that attachment, I think. "My friends" doesn't feel strong enough. They feel most like adopted siblings for my WoL at this point, really.

About the acting:

The performance comments could be taken two ways: that Fourchenault was putting on an act as himself, or that Fourchenault was putting on an act for Sharlayan as a whole. He was there as an emissary, so is what he was instructed to say the act or is his seeming support of it the act? I was assuming G'raha and the others meant that Sharlayan's response, via Fourchenault, was perfomative; not his disownment of his kids. The disownment seems to be being taken seriously.

Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami

Well yes but the disownment could very well be to protect them. The family name could be in the face of danger if he is indeed planning something. It’s just weird to me people are so quick to assume things on someone we’ve literally seen for 5 minutes and have no knowledge on other than that he disowned the kids. We don’t have the proper reason yet. Besides maybe it’s for the best for them. Maybe now they’ll start to think on themselves and reflect a bit more.

I'd argue that that last bit about they need "to think on themselves and reflect a bit more" is the sticking point for some. I don't think they do.

Fourchenault, presuming his disownment was genuine, seems to think that. But I'm of the opinion the twins have done nothing wrong, certainly nothing worthy of that reaction. So if he's serious, then he just disowned his kids over assumptions he's made from a place of ignorance. He clearly doesn't know what his kids have been thru or how they've handled situations to make the judgment he's made. He thinks he knows, but he clearly doesn't. Now, if the disowning is some kind of play he's making that is ultimately meant to protect them, then I can possibly forgive him later. But right now, for all we know, he was serious. And if he was, my desire to yell at and/or hit the man is justified, imo.

Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami

Why do people keep acting like alphy and alisaie are their irl kids? :think: that’s really weird to me. Irregardless, even Graha comments that something is up with their dad. The way he acted in the patch is unlike what both the EE and Alisaie herself comments on in SB,so i’m pretty sure he’s trying to protect them. Don’t see any reason to be aggressive towards him. Especially because we’ve literally only seen the man for 5 minutes. If the WoL acted like some of the people want to...i don’t think we’d be much of a “hero” lmao.

Because people care about these two and seeing how they are still teenagers some of us simply might see them as family. (Just like Edmont sees the WoL as part of their family) And even if he has a plan, disowning his children, who really went through a lot, is just horrible. Things like that can mentally hurt people and we see it with Alphinauds reaction afterwards.

Even if all that is for some greater good (and we dont even know that) it was still done in a way that hurt his own children.

Originally Posted by EdwinLi

I still heavily suspect Sharlayan been planning for the Final Days for a very long time. We know that we my even enter a Ark that Sharlayan made in 6.0 as a Dungeon which looks almost or is already complete.

And here I really wonder: How could they have planned that for a long time when the world would not have final days without us changing the future? The first course of history was a world where a lot of people were killed thanks to black rose. It was a future where the world was still bad 200 years later and where everyone other than Lahabrea was still alive.

I really have a hard time believing that Sharlayan somehow already knew that we would come and change the history. Honestly for me it feels that maybe they still believe that the bad future will happen thus why its just a petty conflict between Eorzea nd Garlemald to them. Maybe they will painfully learn that all their knowledge will amount to nothing.

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Still about disowning his children to protect them: From what? Sharlayan? Because if he plans to somehow keep his children save then disowning them imo does not help at all...they will continue fighting which could get them killed. Wouldnt it make more sense to bascially force his children to come with him so that they can be save at home?

If he wanted to keep them save from his own country then that seemingly also did not work at all..after all we already plan to go to it after Krile sends her okay.

Originally Posted by BlitzAceRush

My issue with it being a "I'm trying to keep you out of harm's way!" is, all he's done is make them want to go straight there, so unless it's a reverse play and he's actually really evil and wants them to come running, or trick them into coming home so he can keep them there, his plan doesn't seem very thought out. 9 times out of 10 the "I've no time/ability to explain, let me do something shocking and out of character without explanation, don't try to figure out why and stay out of it." does not work.

Well they can also go for a darker path for Fourchenault being he did this because he fully intends to let them die in the Final Days because he deems them not worth being saved and to be part of the new world Sharlayan plans to create using the Sharlayan Ark due to what he deemed too corrupted by outside influence.

Thus setting Fouschenault up as someone who was never redeemable because he strongly believes in Sharlayan's beliefs and plans to make Sharlayan the rulers of a new world order after the Final Days and will sacrifice even his own family to see it through. Even to a point we may have to fight him with Alphinaud and Alisaie aiding WoL resulting in WoL having to kill him infront of the twins because he refuse to back down.

Originally Posted by YianKutku

If that Ark is powered by voidsent I desperately hope to have a response of "have you literally learned nothing from the past few Calamities".

Honestly, I won't be surprised if the only thing they learned was to successfully implament the plan without any issues since Sharlayan been keeping a lot of secrets from the world.