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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleImp View Post
    Pro-tip to anyone newer to the forums:

    The second the legendary Goji1639 takes your side on any argument, you can very safely assume you're on the wrongs side.

    I would have more respect for your type if you just openly admitted you were okay with taking advantage of other peoples time, rather than repeatedly making attempts to frame yourselves as victims.
    Legendary, eh. Are you coming onto me?

    I was just pointing out the irony of you delicate flowers becoming aghast when someone suggested speed runners have some kind of ADHD like mental disorder, but you calling people who don't use essences "morally defective, sociopathic losers" gets a standing ovation here.

    But I didn't intend to interrupt; you all please continue ranting about how "toxic" the other side is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goji1639 View Post
    Legendary, eh. Are you coming onto me?

    I was just pointing out the irony of you delicate flowers becoming aghast when someone suggested speed runners have some kind of ADHD like mental disorder, but you calling people who don't use essences "morally defective, sociopathic losers" gets a standing ovation here.

    But I didn't intend to interrupt; you all please continue ranting about how "toxic" the other side is.
    I haven't seen anyone say anything about being "morally defective" for not using essences but I'll also say you're not morally defective for not using essences.

    You are however using severe mental gymnastics for no reason and can't admit to the results of basic simple math and logic. That's a little too much irony to let go when you're the first person to bring up "bad logic"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nethereal View Post
    I haven't seen anyone say anything about being "morally defective" for not using essences but I'll also say you're not morally defective for not using essences.

    You are however using severe mental gymnastics for no reason and can't admit to the results of basic simple math and logic. That's a little too much irony to let go when you're the first person to bring up "bad logic"
    I was quoting LittleImp word for word; "morally defective, sociopathic losers." Lots of likes to. I just like repeating it because of how thoroughly it undermines any moral platform you all thought you had.

    No, everything I've said here has been correct both mathematically and logically. Farming for hours to get essences isn't going to "save me time," it's going to cost me hours of farming essences, while not shortening my DR runs to any significant degree. That's reality. It's you and yours trying to use "mental gymnastics" and flimsy logic in order to dance around that fact.

    Quote Originally Posted by LittleImp View Post
    These kind of moral framing tricks won't work on me, my actions throughout the years on this game say more than enough about what kind of person I am.

    What do yours say about you?

    I have no need to masquerade as a fake paragon of morality, because I have no reliant grift and no motive to constantly portray myself as a victim.
    I advocate for a culture of mutual respect in which players bring their best, whatever it may be. If a player is truly weak for reasons beyond their control, I don't mind being the strength to their weakness.

    But weakness by choice is pathetic, particularly when the time and ambitions of other people hang in the balance. Weakness by choice is a complete moral defect, and its endorsement is a harmful act. Do you think someone who intentionally chooses to be weak is a 'winner'? Do you think someone who engages in anti-social behavior without remorse isn't showing border-line sociopathic traits?

    Every time a thread of this nature comes up, you folks are given the tools to solve your problem, only to repeatedly backpedal until you admit you simply don't care.
    I stand by my words, emphatically.
    My only take away from your posts is a lot of your sense of self worth seems to be tied up in this game. This hilarious little rant about strength and weakness really paints an interesting picture of you.

    But I'm not here to fix you. Continue completely overreacting to what people do in this game, and continue with your emotionally driven personal attacks on parts of the community that completely undermine any point you might have had. It's funny, though, because the people on your side of this were trying to establish some kind of moral high ground, and you've basically been tearing it to pieces. Thanks for that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goji1639 View Post
    No, everything I've said here has been correct both mathematically and logically. Farming for hours to get essences isn't going to "save me time," it's going to cost me hours of farming essences, while not shorting my DR runs to any significant degree. That's reality. It's you and yours trying to use "mental gymnastics" and flimsy logic in order to dance around that fact.
    The fact you think it's going to cost you "hours" to get clusters is beyond me and makes me believe you're truly ignorant on how to get them. All the best to you though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nethereal View Post
    The fact you think it's going to cost you "hours" to get clusters is beyond me and makes me believe you're truly ignorant on how to get them. All the best to you though.
    Getting a significant amount of the correct kind of essence can take hours, yes, especially if you're doing it solo.

    All the best to you to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goji1639 View Post
    Getting a significant amount of the correct kind of essence can take hours, yes, especially if you're doing it solo.

    All the best to you to.
    When I was actively trying to farm clusters for the emotes it could take a long long time before I even got a group for it. I joined a discord with the purpose of finding groups more easily and they really were not posted very often and never at a time I was free. I think I would be ready to shoot myself trying to do that solo, yikes. I have done plenty castrum runs, I have done plenty DR runs and I still have very few essences. I ran out of Cure 4's now as often we end up without a healer the runs I dare to not heal myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aelin_Ashryver View Post
    When I was actively trying to farm clusters for the emotes it could take a long long time before I even got a group for it. I joined a discord with the purpose of finding groups more easily and they really were not posted very often and never at a time I was free. I think I would be ready to shoot myself trying to do that solo, yikes. I have done plenty castrum runs, I have done plenty DR runs and I still have very few essences. I ran out of Cure 4's now as often we end up without a healer the runs I dare to not heal myself.
    I mostly ran fates and CE's all the way to 15, only doing CLL and DR to unlock relic steps. After cashing in everything I had about 5 usable essences. Never tried specifically farming clusters, but with how little I had after running Bozja for days I can't imagine you'll be able to farm enough for all the essences you'll ever need in under an hour; even with a dedicated group.

    Quote Originally Posted by Miracle_Diva View Post
    If YOU start using essences and bring effort, others will too.
    lol no, sorry but that's really not how it works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goji1639 View Post
    Legendary, eh. Are you coming onto me?

    I was just pointing out the irony of you delicate flowers becoming aghast when someone suggested speed runners have some kind of ADHD like mental disorder, but you calling people who don't use essences "morally defective, sociopathic losers" gets a standing ovation here.

    But I didn't intend to interrupt; you all please continue ranting about how "toxic" the other side is.
    These kind of moral framing tricks won't work on me, my actions throughout the years on this game say more than enough about what kind of person I am.

    What do yours say about you?

    I have no need to masquerade as a fake paragon of morality, because I have no reliant grift and no motive to constantly portray myself as a victim.
    I advocate for a culture of mutual respect in which players bring their best, whatever it may be. If a player is truly weak for reasons beyond their control, I don't mind being the strength to their weakness.

    But weakness by choice is pathetic, particularly when the time and ambitions of other people hang in the balance. Weakness by choice is a complete moral defect, and its endorsement is a harmful act. Do you think someone who intentionally chooses to be weak is a 'winner'? Do you think someone who engages in anti-social behavior without remorse isn't showing border-line sociopathic traits?

    Every time a thread of this nature comes up, you folks are given the tools to solve your problem, only to repeatedly backpedal until you admit you simply don't care.
    I stand by my words, emphatically.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goji1639 View Post
    Legendary, eh. Are you coming onto me?

    I was just pointing out the irony of you delicate flowers becoming aghast when someone suggested speed runners have some kind of ADHD like mental disorder, but you calling people who don't use essences "morally defective, sociopathic losers" gets a standing ovation here.

    But I didn't intend to interrupt; you all please continue ranting about how "toxic" the other side is.
    Hey I the ASPD group is not so bad. You can hang out with me we have cookies.
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