Fix Housing Megathread

[ItMe]

I'm sure this has been suggested a million times but in the off chance it hasn't, what if instanced housing was created for FCs only.

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't this how housing originally was?
Can someone remind me why they moved away from that model?

[Almagnus1]

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't this how housing originally was?
Can someone remind me why they moved away from that model?

Housing used to be FC housing, but the wards were pretty desolate (mostly due to FCs not having enough capital at that point in the game), so SE opened it up to all players.

While it would solve a lot of problems to force personal housing to only the apartments and FC rooms (especially if SE could lock down the wards to legitimate FCs), that will never happen as SE has made a decision that cannot be walked back.

[Catstab]

SE has made a decision that cannot be walked back.

Idk, you're always saying they should walk back the decision to grandfather alt character houses.

Why not go the extra mile and just walk back all personal housing, now that apartments are available?

[Almagnus1]

Idk, you're always saying they should walk back the decision to grandfather alt character houses.

Why not go the extra mile and just walk back all personal housing, now that apartments are available?

Maybe if you keep fighting those windmills Don Quixote you'll find the answer to your question. I mean, you are going to sock-puppet me with whatever answer is convenient for you, so give me the answer that you want me to echo to you so you can get that epic forum win you so desperately crave.

[Catstab]

you are going to sock-puppet me

You have entirely invented the sock puppet thing in your own head. Some of the notations I make are for context. I also sometimes weed out sections of your posts where you get repetitive, wordy, emotional, or inane and replace them with a notation of what you were talking about. It's extremely common in written English.

I'm just entertained that you think some decisions are sacred and permanent, and others need to be re-evaluated based on your concerns.

[Almagnus1]

I'm just entertained that you think some decisions are sacred and permanent, and others need to be re-evaluated based on your concerns.

Please link where I said that.

[Catstab]

epic forum win you desire

And debate has nothing to do with a desire to win.

SE came up with the relocation system, and many players and FCs find it to be a benefit. Before relocation was a thing, an FC that wanted to move house would have to destroy all FC private chambers by kicking all members who could not empty+destroy their rooms in the next 30-90 seconds. While I could fathom changes to personal relocation, FC relocation changing in almost any way would bring this travesty right back to the modern era.

SE also came up with guidelines to make housing more available, but grandfathered people so they would not lose the treasured rewards they had played for. If they did not do this, some players would lose access to content that they fairly earned and regularly enjoy.

To me, both of these are shining examples of fairness and consideration, and show that SE cares about our gameplay experience. My one beef with the gameplay of ff14 is the timer. It is a curse. I spend an hour or more every day coaching new people on discord as to how the timer works, how to defeat it, how often to rest.

Your constant "suggestions" are to take these considerations away and leave affected players out in the cold. I will stand up and say "this idea is shortsighted and will hurt players" every single time you suggest tearing down a helpful game feature.

[Almagnus1]

And debate has nothing to do with a desire to win.

SE came up with the relocation system, and many players and FCs find it to be a benefit. Before relocation was a thing, an FC that wanted to move house would have to destroy all FC private chambers by kicking all members who could not empty+destroy their rooms in the next 30-90 seconds. While I could fathom changes to personal relocation, FC relocation changing in almost any way would bring this travesty right back to the modern era.

Please go find the post where I seriously suggested the removal of that.

SE also came up with guidelines to make housing more available, but grandfathered people so they would not lose the treasured rewards they had played for. If they did not do this, some players would lose access to content that they fairly earned and regularly enjoy.[/B]

This is more about addressing the complete lack of supply (and not about hating on the grandfathered in people). SE made a dumb decision on this one. SE will likely never be able to have enough housing wards to satisfy demand. My position on this will not change until there are excess housing plots on the most populated of servers. If I lower my writing level to a third grade level (instead of collegiate level) you might be able to understand this point.

[Catstab]

If I lower my writing level to a third grade level (instead of collegiate level) you might be able to understand this point.

You say that, and then you call me notating context "sock puppeting." You would think reading notations would be easy for someone who brags on the internet about attending college.

Yes, 5700 houses per 20000 player world was SEs idea. You might not think adding 720 houses worth of wards or 1440 houses worth of ishgard is a solution and that's fine. But divesting a handful of people from their alt-character's houses to produce under 100 openings per server is a solution? Give me a break.

Grandfathering was a good idea, and every time you say it should go, you will be told you are wrong.