Parsers add replayability for casual players

[DPZ2]

Hey I'm not the one who is begging for parsers. My personal opinion is the game is better off without them, but I would be able to tolerate a personal parser because they wouldn't lead to unnecessary drama like I witnessed repeatedly in WoW.

Fair enough. The amount of data and networking involved is, by the way, the primary reason I believe Blizzard didn't build a parser into their game. Let the end-user figure a way.

[Penthea]

Fair enough. The amount of data and networking involved is, by the way, the primary reason I believe Blizzard didn't build a parser into their game. Let the end-user figure a way.

Hrmmm I don't know about that. I'm not an expert on programming or networking but I can tell you that Blizzard are extremely slow to update their ui because they can rely on third party devs to do it for them for free. Which creates problems due to them not being QA tested by Blizzard so they're often buggy. A lot of things we take for granted in our ui in this game are completely absent from WoW's base ui.

Basically I'm saying it's possible Blizzard didn't build an in-game parser because third party devs do it for them already.

[VelKallor]

it just sounds like people don't wanna have to be forced to pull their own weight.

scrub, baddie

Optimum performance

The first step to not being a leech/scrub/baddie/etc... is to accept you are bad and need to get better.

Accept the only argument about parsers are based on feelings, nothing wrong with bending the knee.

Bending the knee...who is this, Tyrion Lannister?.

Im sorry are we discussing paid employment, or are we we discussing a video game?

[Sighearth]

So, you've gone from a "rating" (which is meaningless in the example of the Darkhold Tank experience I mentioned) to "charts showing stuff" about what they 'missed'. In what games does such logic exist today? Do you have any idea how much bandwidth that sort of information would require? Working in the IT world, I do have an idea, and if you think latency is an issue now, get ready for a big surprise.

The reasons all those 'other sites' have so much information is that a player records it on their own system. The game doesn't do that for you, nor will it ever. I get shivers just thinking of the data that multiple instances at any given time across data centers would have to generate and transmit in real time, to make those charts possible.

Well, just make it so its client sided easy.

[PeekayTom]

I agree with this. Furthermore, I would suggest making it visible to the whole party. Why? Because it would spur rivalry and competition between party members. As a tank I want to beat the other tank into the ground, same for when I heal or dps. I hope my fellow party members feel the same. Promoting this mindset would improve player skill tenfold and make the community healthier as honesty would be allowed to flourish instead of barely held back distain of our current ways.

I saw this and a reply to it and I thought this person was making a joke or something but I see throughout the thread that no, they're serious.

"I want to beat the other tank into the ground"
"Promoting this mindset would make the community healthier"

Pick one. As it is, it sounds like you have unresolved anger issues and an inferiority/superiority complex.

[VelKallor]

The first step to not being a leech/scrub/baddie/etc... is to accept you are bad and need to get better. This happened to me learning DRK in HW, back when tanks had a decently higher barrier for entre. Sure it sucked at first to have the rug pulled out from under you, but you just have to break it out and keep grinding. Eventually you get decent and even good. I was glad I was told I was a baddie because it motivated me into becoming at least an average player. Accept the only argument about parsers are based on feelings, nothing wrong with bending the knee.

I can think of at least a dozen reason why that approach is dead wrong.

[WoW]

People often times fear what they do not understand. This is one such instance.

"The oldest and strongest emotion of mankind is fear, and the oldest and strongest kind of fear is fear of the unknown" ― H.P. Lovecraft

And a simple search of a name - your name, for example - shows just what kind of player you are.

Damn, you ain't holding punches back rofl! I like that.


Serious question, though. Is it a hobby for all the baddies to level up all jobs and butcher them? Like, do you really enjoy being bad on all!?

[ZedxKayn]

Bending the knee...who is this, Tyrion Lannister?.

Im sorry are we discussing paid employment, or are we we discussing a video game?

A multiplayer video game. You might not like it but as it is not singleplayer you have the responsibilities to try your best and take criticism in such a game. Which frankly, really isn't much to ask from someone who doesn't have the emotional maturity of a child.

If playing at an acceptable level and dealing with people makes someone feel like the game is a job they don't want to do, perhaps they simply do not enjoy the game.

[VelKallor]

A multiplayer video game. You might not like it but as it is not singleplayer you have the responsibilities to try your best and take criticism in such a game.

Theres criticism and theres abuse and contempt. One is not the other.

If playing at an acceptable level and dealing with people makes someone feel like the game is a job they don't want to do, perhaps they simply do not enjoy the game.

I enjoy the game a great deal. I also know how to deal with people in an acceptable manner, how to treat them with basic dignity and respect. One can offer criticism and comments on gameplay without talking down to people or treating them as someone "lower" than you.

Learned that in my very first days as a supervisor of a team of 30 people. A lesson worth remembering.

[Senn]

take criticism in such a game.

lol no, you'll get reported if you criticize someone for underperforming probably.
If people stopped feeling the need to grace others with their ~advice~ we'd probably have parsers in the game by now. You think those who are underperforming care? Hahahaha most of the time that isn't the case in roulettes. They're probably just watching anime or whatever on their second monitor while they press 1 2 3
Best thing to do is vote kick or leave yourself if you feel the party is getting no where. But don't ever mention parse numbers.