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  1. #11
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    Ultimatecalibur's Avatar
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    Kakita Ucalibur
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    Siren
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    Paladin Lv 86
    Quote Originally Posted by Kacho_Nacho View Post
    It's a shame they discontinued them. Was it just too much work to offer two sets of weapons for THM/BLM and CNJ/WHM?
    It was more that the drop system as it originally functioned could not be forced to drop both parts of a weapon+shield pair together. For a long time Paladins were at risk of only getting partial upgrades as they might see only the sword drop or only the shield drop. As stats are split between the 2 items missing out on one of them put them behind everyone else on gear and both BLM and WHM suffered from it worse as a 2-handed weapon with a higher ilevel was always an upgrade but a higher ilevel 1-handed weapon was often a downgrade as they often did not have a high enough ilevel shield to pair with the new weapon.

    Quote Originally Posted by Semirhage View Post
    Yeah, they have to spend that time designing a special set of armor specifically for Dragoon in every single new set of content. Good thing Reaper's going to share with it in 6.0, 'cuz I always thought it was funny we have the "all four tanks" set, the "all three healers" set, the "all four casters set", and...yep Dragoon gets its own exclusive set every patch.
    You should note that pretty much all the modern Maiming sets are recolors of the tank sets.
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    Last edited by Ultimatecalibur; 05-22-2021 at 03:46 AM.

  2. #12
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    Recon1o6's Avatar
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    Avarnia Corthal
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    Adamantoise
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Semirhage View Post
    Yeah, they have to spend that time designing a special set of armor specifically for Dragoon in every single new set of content. Good thing Reaper's going to share with it in 6.0, 'cuz I always thought it was funny we have the "all four tanks" set, the "all three healers" set, the "all four casters set", and...yep Dragoon gets its own exclusive set every patch.
    pfft, its a tank set thats recoloured 90% of the time, when it isn't its a recolour of other melees
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  3. #13
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    Cassia Kaedhan
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    Ragnarok
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Foxkid View Post
    Ninja getting ignored? Dang..
    Surprisingly weird Ninja use a similar looking gear to ranged but not the ranged gear.
    In ARR I think most ranged armor were shared with Melees, the Strength and Dex stats were equal.
    And accessories are shared between Nin and ranged.

    I'd say it's really surprising that Reaper didn't used Ninja armors, it doesn't even looks like an armored job.
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  4. #14
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    Rei Makato
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    Zodiark
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    Machinist Lv 90
    I'd at least like the ability to glamour a wand and shield onto my BLM and CNJ, could make for some very cool outfits.
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  5. #15
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    Chryden Speakel
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    Odin
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    You can use them again in Bozja and DR.
    You don't lose any stats with them due to the way how the syncing works there.
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  6. #16
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    Ketsueki Bloodfox
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    Leviathan
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Hysterior View Post
    Thank god! Hope they can find a new solutions for paladin.
    It was AWFUL when you had to roll for both the wand and the healer shield. Most of the time you would get only one of the two.
    Either they should come as a set or they should not bother dong this again.
    I thought they did come as a set nowadays? I recall running Byakko when it was relevant and the Paladin weapon dropped 3 times in a row. Each time it was both the sword and shield together, so why can't the same happen for wands and conjurer shields again if they already show (and even account tomestones for split purchase on main and off hand weapons) they can do it currently?

    And then all they'd really have to do is placate them strictly as CNJ, WHM equipment much like every shield after 50 is GLA, PLD so no one gets screwed out of anything short of having 2 WHM (but nothing stops the same from happening if you have 2 paladins in a trial either).
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  7. #17
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Recon1o6 View Post
    funnily enough though they did have a small resurgence recently because of bozja, a level 80 zone that ups stats and levels inside. so a level 1 wand and shield was better than a level 80 cane in that zone
    Still is. /10char
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
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  8. #18
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    Iiiiiiiiiiit's Meeeee
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Foxkid View Post
    I thought they did come as a set nowadays?
    Yeah. As if ShB they drop together.
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  9. #19
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    Ketsueki Bloodfox
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    Leviathan
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by ItMe View Post
    Yeah. As if ShB they drop together.
    So why not just do the same for wands and shields then??? Not like the Off-Hand tab gets any use unless you're a crafter or paladin specifically.
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  10. #20
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    Shinonome Sanada
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    Phoenix
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    Conjurer Lv 92
    Not sure how much of a programming issue it is, but using weapon coffers as an example, how would a White Mage or Black Mage go about with getting either option? And as minor as it is, people would probably call you out for trolling the party using two-handed weapons, because you're effectively giving up the possibility of damage mitigation through blocking (tryharding) for vanity.

    Incidentally, would the one hander and shield combo remain unique for White Mages and Black Mages? Why not the other healers and casters?

    I personally don't miss the wonky stages of vanilla A Realm Reborn gearing - as a poor noob, being unable to use gear upgrades because of the silliness that was the Darklight Cowl and such was beyond annoying.
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