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  1. #1
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    Raminax's Avatar
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    Shinonome Sanada
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    Phoenix
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    Conjurer Lv 92
    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    Where does the faith in the devs come from?
    From, what I'd assume, hobby/casual healers. I don't want to sound like a crazy going "No True Scotsman" or "Gray parsers lel", but...

    They don't care about White Mages clipping out their ass, because they don't care to play at a level of 95% or higher activity rate.

    They don't care about the Energy Drain nerfs, because they don't care to plan out their Aetherflow usage - just pop Indomitability or Sacred Soil immediately upon raid damage.

    They don't believe Astrologians are busted, because they don't care to go particularly deep on any analysis - tooltips show that they sorta have the same-ish potencies and MP costs as the other healers? Look, balanced!

    They believe healing requirements are just fine, because they don't have the energy to map out the fight's timeline to see that, yes, you can get away with murder on nearly all of them.

    Like, I'm personally under no illusion that I'm a god tier gamer myself, but being a teensy bit of a tryhard shows me that there's a lot of apparent issues. And while I understand we can't balance everything around Savage or Ultimate levels of tuning, I genuinely don't understand why Squeenix has this irrational fear of healers having some sort of skill expression or risk of failure. Why is it that the tank role can get a slide with the message of "Results may vary depending on player skill.", while the figurative message that healers seem to be getting is "Don't be sad, we'll make it impossible for you to mess up!"?

    Edit: Might come off as unnecessarily agressive - I don't mean to be elitist or any such. Not wanting to play at tryhard level is fine, but I do feel that Squeenix seems to especially cater to people completely uninterested in healing.
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    Last edited by Raminax; 05-20-2021 at 02:25 AM.

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    Allegor's Avatar
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    Red Rider
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Raminax View Post
    true stuff
    I'm a casual player and agree that healers (WHM specially) are too....childproof, to put it mildly. I think they work under the notion that nobody wants to play a healer, but it's still an essential raid slot.

    GNB is popular supposedly because it feels like playin a DPS, rather than a tank. Why can't healers get the same treatment is beyond me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    Can't increase healing requirements because "it'd stress the newbies"
    Can't increase dps options either because "it'd stress the newbies"
    so apparently the only option that doesn't "stress the newbies" is either pressing 1211111111, or do nothing at all.

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    Grim Gaelasch
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    Moogle
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    I'm a casual player and agree that healers (WHM specially) are too....childproof, to put it mildly. I think they work under the notion that nobody wants to play a healer, but it's still an essential raid slot.

    GNB is popular supposedly because it feels like playin a DPS, rather than a tank. Why can't healers get the same treatment is beyond me.
    Sage might be the answer to that, in the same way GNB was for Tanks.
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    Xia Thas
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    Excalibur
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    Gunbreaker Lv 86
    Quote Originally Posted by GrimGale View Post
    Sage might be the answer to that, in the same way GNB was for Tanks.
    Sage gets a Continuation healing spam combo
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    Ketsueki Bloodfox
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    Leviathan
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Xia_Thas View Post
    Sage gets a Continuation healing spam combo

    "Wait, your health is full! Everyone's health is full! What do I do until the next low damage/1 hp raid-wide now??? I only have 1 ST, AoE, and dot for damage!!"
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    Well, at least I'm trying...

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    Laphicet Melophicet
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    Mateus
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    Astrologian Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Xia_Thas View Post
    Sage gets a Continuation healing spam combo
    Don't even say that as a joke. You'll give the devs ideas.
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