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  1. #91
    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Bastilaa Shan
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    Give Reaper a full raidwise raise move. With a 20 minute CD. Players will riot for weeks.

    Anyone who says the name Reaper has nothing to do with Necromancers needs to go play Guild Wars 2. Or go research the Grim Reaper in all it's forms and how it relates to Death in itself.

    But since Reaper is melee DPS I can't wait for the sweet LB3.
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  2. #92
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    Shikaree Sinhunter
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    Give Reaper a full raidwise raise move. With a 20 minute CD. Players will riot for weeks.

    Anyone who says the name Reaper has nothing to do with Necromancers needs to go play Guild Wars 2. Or go research the Grim Reaper in all it's forms and how it relates to Death in itself.

    But since Reaper is melee DPS I can't wait for the sweet LB3.
    first thing I planned to do was GPOSE with LB3 so I can see how cool it looks lol. XD
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  3. #93
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    Jandor's Avatar
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    Tal Young
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katie_Kitty View Post
    You want the melee to hardcast rez?
    If I recall correctly when they announced the role quests they said they'd be for melee physical, ranged physical and magic DPS. Currently though, the DPS sub-roles are called melee DPS, physical ranged DPS and magic ranged DPS.
    It could be nothing, likely is, but adding that physical qualifier to the melee and dropping the ranged one from magic while adding a voidsent summoning melee job.

    I wouldn't say I'm set on the theory yet, but maybe Reaper will be classed as a Magic DPS, and get Magic role actions like swiftcast as a result.

    Alternatively maybe I'm reading too much into how they phrased the role quest confirmation and nothing changes DPS sub-role wise. They could just give it a rez that works differently though, no real reason it couldn't be an instant or quick cast on a long cooldown for example.
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    Last edited by Jandor; 05-18-2021 at 04:51 PM.

  4. #94
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    Seraphor Vhinasch
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jandor View Post
    If I recall correctly when they announced the role quests they said they'd be for melee physical, ranged physical and magic DPS. Currently though, the DPS sub-roles are called melee DPS, physical ranged DPS and magic ranged DPS.
    It could be nothing, likely is, but adding that physical qualifier to the melee and dropping the ranged one from magic while adding a voidsent summoning melee job.

    I wouldn't say I'm set on the theory yet, but maybe Reaper will be classed as a Magic DPS, and get Magic role actions like swiftcast as a result.

    Alternatively maybe I'm reading too much into how they phrased the role quest confirmation and nothing changes DPS sub-role wise. They could just give it a rez that works differently though, no real reason it couldn't be an instant or quick cast on a long cooldown for example.
    You're reading the emphasis wrong.
    It's Melee Physical and Ranged Physical. Two different Physical roles.
    Reaper is going to be sharing gear with Dragoon, it's not going to be a different role to it.
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  5. #95
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    You're reading the emphasis wrong.
    It's Melee Physical and Ranged Physical. Two different Physical roles.
    Reaper is going to be sharing gear with Dragoon, it's not going to be a different role to it.
    It's new emphasis, they've never specified physical for melee before. Dividing the physical damage dealers into melee and ranged is a change from dividing the ranged damage dealers into physical and magical.
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  6. #96
    Player Seraphor's Avatar
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    Seraphor Vhinasch
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jandor View Post
    It's new emphasis, they've never specified physical for melee before. Dividing the physical damage dealers into melee and ranged is a change from dividing the ranged damage dealers into physical and magical.
    In Shadowbringers, the role quests were for Physical and Magical. Phys ranged were grouped with Melee.
    This is talking about role quests, so the distinction makes sense.
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  7. #97
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    In Shadowbringers, the role quests were for Physical and Magical. Phys ranged were grouped with Melee.
    This is talking about role quests, so the distinction makes sense.
    Meh, I just thought it was an interesting phrasing and something fun to speculate on. I'm not that invested though so whatever, maybe I'll get to act smug in 6 months, maybe not.
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  8. #98
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    Cain Andleft
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkdra View Post
    Few more details from a translated interview

    I realized this makes a lot of sense. Who knows, maybe the "avatar" might just be us, but the thirteenth shard of us. The voidsents are all from the Void (13th shard that fell to darkness due to the imbalance by ascian machinations) and technically is part of the source with their aetheric composition tipped to darkness and subsequently had their forms warped to look entirely different like how the light-aspected sin eaters looked in the First.

    Our character is sorta associated to death - (we killed a ton of things from ARR to ShB that enemies could very well associate us as a God of Death a.k.a. Reaper at this point). With our soul mostly complete, we can probably handle another essence in our bodies even if the form was warped and tipped towards an aetheric element (which would be the avatar). Maybe the reason why he can't comment on whether we get possessed by the reaper is because fundamentally it's just another part of us similar to how Ardbert is. With the way how souls stagnate upon being exposed to huge aetheric elements , our soul joining to theirs might just awaken their sense of purpose instead of acting on instinct, but ultimately their form is permanently warped and aetherically tipped to darkness. In that sense, we would be fighting 'alongside' each other, where our skills are just aetherically charged to the void.

    OH. I just remembered, as we know, there is a certain sidequest that talks about trying to restore the thirteenth shard back to normal like how it was done in the Empty. Perhaps the Reaper storyline will touch upon this aspect too? I dunno, but this speculation thought is getting me hyped.
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  9. #99
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    Markov Dracul
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    Aren't there 2 Voids in the game? There is the 13th Shard which we call the Void. However there are structures there since we go there in the World of Darkness raid. And then there is the Void that the Ascians get sent back to when you destroy their bodies but not their souls. Elidibus traps us there during the Warrior of Light fight. Who's to say which void we are summoning an avatar from.
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    Nyarlha Moonstalker
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burningskull View Post
    Aren't there 2 Voids in the game? There is the 13th Shard which we call the Void. However there are structures there since we go there in the World of Darkness raid. And then there is the Void that the Ascians get sent back to when you destroy their bodies but not their souls. Elidibus traps us there during the Warrior of Light fight. Who's to say which void we are summoning an avatar from.
    No. The Void is the Void (the 13th). Ascians use the Aetherial Rift, which is not the same thing.
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