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  1. #101
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burningskull View Post
    Aren't there 2 Voids in the game? There is the 13th Shard which we call the Void. However there are structures there since we go there in the World of Darkness raid. And then there is the Void that the Ascians get sent back to when you destroy their bodies but not their souls. Elidibus traps us there during the Warrior of Light fight. Who's to say which void we are summoning an avatar from.
    Do you mean the aetherial rift? I recall the old MSQ ARR 2.4 patch mentioning how "Lahabrea is able to use a Crystal of Darkness to flee into the space that lies between our world and the void". The void they are talking about is the 13th shard. The space that lies between is the Aetherial rift. Nabriales also brought us to the Aetherial Rift in the trial "The Chrysalis". SoS also mentions how time and time again, the Ascians are forced to retreat back to the rift during the transition phase.
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  2. #102
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    Also, the vfx I noticed is the one from when a buff is applied to you. Like when you're eating food.
    Could be a placeholder to have a visual cue that application of an effect works or something like that.
    But it seems that (in the current build) attacks from the voidsent give a buff (attack speed? Damage ? no way to know)
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  3. #103
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnotherPerson View Post
    Do you mean the aetherial rift? I recall the old MSQ ARR 2.4 patch mentioning how "Lahabrea is able to use a Crystal of Darkness to flee into the space that lies between our world and the void". The void they are talking about is the 13th shard. The space that lies between is the Aetherial rift. Nabriales also brought us to the Aetherial Rift in the trial "The Chrysalis". SoS also mentions how time and time again, the Ascians are forced to retreat back to the rift during the transition phase.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nyarlha View Post
    No. The Void is the Void (the 13th). Ascians use the Aetherial Rift, which is not the same thing.
    My mistake then.

    Here is a question tho. Will Reaper have party utility or will it be pure DPS like SAM? DRG buffs crit. NIN and MNK buff Damage. Maybe Reaper will have a NIN like debuff. Maybe we'll get lucky and it'll be the one melee without positionals. (I say we but I mean I lol.)
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    Last edited by Burningskull; 05-20-2021 at 06:32 AM.

  4. #104
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burningskull View Post
    My mistake then.

    Here is a question tho. Will Reaper have party utility or will it be pure DPS like SAM? DRG buffs crit. NIN and MNK buff Damage. Maybe Reaper will have a NIN like debuff. Maybe we'll get lucky and it'll be the one melee without positionals. (I say we but I mean I lol.)
    Having positionals is what makes a melee a melee so most likely will have positionals. (Unless they remove positionals all together in 6.0 which I doubt)
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  5. #105
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rymi64 View Post
    Having positionals is what makes a melee a melee so most likely will have positionals. (Unless they remove positionals all together in 6.0 which I doubt)
    Pretty sure being in melee is what make a melee a melee.
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  6. #106
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    Bastilaa Shan
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    Positionals are there to make the melee job feel artificially engaging. I very much enjoy PvP Monk over PvE Monk as Chakra is built per weaponskill and has no positionals and isn't contingent on knowing when to use a certain skill out of 9 and drops the forms required.

    Which I find more fun in it's simplicity.

    And in raids at launch I find positionals to be detrimental to learning fights when Tanks don't know what's going on.

    Most cases I'm more comfortable with ranged classes for new content because they have the leniency of no positional requirements.

    A melee job without positionals would make it unique in a way but somehow I doubt it will be without them if role actions like True North will still be maintained.
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  7. #107
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    Give Reaper a full raidwise raise move. With a 20 minute CD. Players will riot for weeks.
    Why Raise? Let them do the reverse and reap the soul of allies, killing them and turning them into the shadow buddy for x duration with big dps buffs. That would definitely cause some fun riots.
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  8. #108
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    Why Raise? Let them do the reverse and reap the soul of allies, killing them and turning them into the shadow buddy for x duration with big dps buffs. That would definitely cause some fun riots.
    Replace all of your allies by Trusts that do all the mechanics perfectly.
    But never do enough DPS to pass the Enrage.
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