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  1. #81
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    Sotaris's Avatar
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    Meluwen Nobu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viviumm View Post
    Honestly with housing they should really keep adding plots.... and I mean weekly or monthly for example in the goblet there's only 25 wards there could be way more... but they should keep housing how it is its what makes it so unique and what makes a lot of people want houses tbh. Also remove relocation because it feels like its really unfair
    Problem with this, is server hardware cost. That's why they are pretty slow on adding new ones until it's really needed.
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  2. #82
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    Almagnus1's Avatar
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    Maley Oakensage
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sotaris View Post
    Problem with this, is server hardware cost. That's why they are pretty slow on adding new ones until it's really needed.
    A couple of things SE should probably do if they are hellbent on keeping supply low:
    • End personal house grandfathering
    • End shell FC housing

    If we are going to forever deal with a limited supply, all players must be restricted to one personal house per server per subscription, and an FC should not be allowed to hold a house if it does not have at least four unique active subscriptions associated with that FC.

    The housing supply has to be optimized and fairly distributed and SE must end a player controlling a single ward without paying for a lot of subs to make it work.
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  3. #83
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    Altria Pendragons
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    The housing supply has to be optimized and fairly distributed and SE must end a player controlling a single ward without paying for a lot of subs to make it work.
    You have no right to do that, especially for those 2 guys on Mateus
    They choose a server where no one want to go there at the time.
    They started a project on something that no once cares at the time.
    They have the foresight and you don't.

    Your subscription never guarantee you a house by default, it is only player self-proclaimed.
    You only gain the right to access, it is never 100%.
    It is same as you are not guaranteed with Savage Eden drop just because you have a subscription, you worked for it
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  4. #84
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    Maley Oakensage
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    You have no right to do that, especially for those 2 guys on Mateus
    Those two guys on Mateus deserve to have all but one of their personal houses stripped and all of their shell FCs disbanded. If you disagree with that, you are part of the problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    They choose a server where no one want to go there at the time.
    They started a project on something that no once cares at the time.
    They had their fun, and it's time for that to end because the needs of the many outweigh the infantile desires of the one (or in this case, two).

    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    It is same as you are not guaranteed with Savage Eden drop just because you have a subscription, you worked for it
    Those two are completely incomparable things since there's no limit to the number of Eden Savage drops... but there is a limit to the number of houses. I mean, you can run any instance as many times as you want in a week.
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  5. #85
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    Those two guys on Mateus deserve to have all but one of their personal houses stripped and all of their shell FCs disbanded. If you disagree with that, you are part of the problem.
    Figure out how to give them back the time they spent building that stuff, and then we'll just go ahead and do a refund.
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  7. #86
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catstab View Post
    Figure out how to give them back the time they spent building that stuff, and then we'll just go ahead and do a refund.
    Absolutely not. They abused the housing system so they should suffer the consequences - and in this case, get screwed over because of their greed.

    I mean, SE isn't going to properly fix the supply issue anytime soon, so the only other option they have is to forcibly release houses on people that are tying up more than their fair share of land.
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  8. #87
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    Kotori Minamii
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    Don't they have enough... It sure seems square enix would make a lot which could help this matter
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  9. #88
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    C'erise Vanesse
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    Absolutely not. They abused the housing system so they should suffer the consequences - and in this case, get screwed over because of their greed.

    I mean, SE isn't going to properly fix the supply issue anytime soon, so the only other option they have is to forcibly release houses on people that are tying up more than their fair share of land.
    Just refund the price of the houses and if they’ve got too much furniture tied up there well bully for them I guess. At this point I don’t really care too much.
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    Off-Topic Discussion Megathread: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/434886-Off-Topic-Discussion-Megathread
    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    No thanks. Housing is fine as it is

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    Jojoya Joya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sotaris View Post
    Problem with this, is server hardware cost. That's why they are pretty slow on adding new ones until it's really needed.
    It's not just hardware cost, they also have to arrange for physical space at the facility housing the servers and have technicians available to install the equipment.


    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    A couple of things SE should probably do if they are hellbent on keeping supply low:
    • End personal house grandfathering
    • End shell FC housing

    If we are going to forever deal with a limited supply, all players must be restricted to one personal house per server per subscription, and an FC should not be allowed to hold a house if it does not have at least four unique active subscriptions associated with that FC.

    The housing supply has to be optimized and fairly distributed and SE must end a player controlling a single ward without paying for a lot of subs to make it work.
    I doubt the grandfathered housing amounts to much. There weren't that many players with multiple houses when it went into effect and it's likely some of those houses have since
    been relinquished.

    The shell FC situation is a much bigger issue. It was nice to hear YoshiP acknowledge during the keynote that RMT and the other housing exploits are a problem they are trying to find ways to address but it was a shame they still wish to avoid an actual solution to the problem in favor of making new band-aids that will still get exploited.
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  11. #90
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    Absolutely not. They abused the housing system <...>

    Gonna go ahead and stop you right there, since you're dead wrong.

    Playing a game within the rules of that game isn't abuse.
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