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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    someone that likes harassing others
    Considering I'm the one you're harassing, I'll assume you mean me.

    So now you're saying I like harassing people? Look, I don't know what your deal is, but you don't know me, and you need to back off, now. My entire point, my only point, is that no players with alt housing have broken any rules. You're angry because I changed your link to "0<rules posted in 2018>"? The link you posted was literally rules posted in 2018. I don't see how labeling your link instead of including it is dishonest.

    So you can either point out where those rules were posted in 2015, or you can accept that the guidelines you're pointing out did not apply to the players you are upset about and drop this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    I'm not the one that started sock-puppeting people.
    No one is sock puppeting you. You said "What about these rules <link to rules posted in 2018>" and I wrote the link like that instead of including it.

    Are you disagreeing that your rules are from 2018 or am I missing something?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catstab View Post
    No one is sock puppeting you. You said "What about these rules <link to rules posted in 2018>" and I wrote the link like that instead of including it.

    Are you disagreeing that your rules are from 2018 or am I missing something?
    Overall, he has a zealot-like hatred towards those 2 on Mateus and weird logic about housing that totally ignore the fact it is impossible for physical servers (supply) to meet rapid growth of playerbase (demand).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    weird logic about housing that totally ignore the fact it is impossible for physical servers (supply) to meet rapid growth of playerbase (demand).
    You know that supply issue I keep talking about? That's what you just described.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catstab View Post
    No one is sock puppeting you.
    Yes you are.

    When you do anything to edit the quote beyond breaking it into pieces that's sockpuppeting because you are putting words into my mouth that were never spoken and changing what I have said.

    Remember the other poster that went ham against me and got banned?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    Yes you are.
    Again, I changed the quote from "Read these rules though http://www.square-enix...."

    to "Read these rules though <link to rules from 2018>"

    So I did not alter what you said. I have not been dishonest. Your accusations are false.
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    Anyway back to the topic at hand....

    So on top of those rules added in 2018, what changes do you think should be made to the system? Since that's sort of the purpose of this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    Like I said... <link to something unrelated, comments about unrelated things>
    Quote Originally Posted by Catstab View Post
    Anyway back to the topic at hand....

    So on top of those rules added in 2018, what changes do you think should be made to the system? Since that's sort of the purpose of this thread.
    So on top of those rules added in 2018, what changes do you think should be made to the system? Since that's sort of the purpose of this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catstab View Post
    Anyway back to the topic at hand....

    So on top of those rules added in 2018, what changes do you think should be made to the system? Since that's sort of the purpose of this thread.
    This is going to be a rehash of many things I have suggested before soo...

    Personal House Changes:
    • Make gardening available without the need for housing - hopefully this is happening with Endwalkers
    • Give each character on a server on the same service account a teleport location to each personal house owned by any of those characters. So if you have one personal house on a server, all four characters on that server get a teleport location to that house. A grandfathered in account with four houses would have all four teleport locations to each house on each character.
    • Give personal houses storage so players can easily transfer items, crystals, and gil between chars on the same server

    FC Changes:
    • Make a workshop accessible to anyone not in an FC so solo players can build an airship (or sub) and can run airship (or sub) expeditions without needing to be in an FC
    • Have FCs do an active service account check and if they are less than four service accounts with active subscriptions the FC will lose the house after a grace period that allows the FC to bring the active subs above 4
    • Allow the FC leader the option to transfer the FC house to their personal house through a Mogg Station purchase

    Additional changes:
    • Allow for a housing buyback at full sticker price for someone that wants to sell it back to the housing market
    • Stop the loss of items at the Residential Caretaker, and have them all the non-bound stuff from the house there, even if it means disassembling aircraft and subs
    • Allow players to mail things between characters on the same server

    The main point with this is to remove the incentives for owning multiple houses. I get that it removes some of the uniqueness from housing, but it also opens up mechanics to more of the player-base (as the assumption is that the FC workshop and FC gardening are locked off to most players due to FC permissions).

    And being realistic, until most of the above has been implemented, the grandfathered in personal houses should be left alone as you want to allow players to naturally divest the houses rather than forcing the issue.

    That said, shell FCs need to die in a fire.
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    Last edited by Almagnus1; 05-19-2021 at 06:40 AM. Reason: Clarity

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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    Have FCs do an active service account check and if they are less than four service accounts with active subscriptions the FC will lose the house after a grace period that allows the FC to bring the active subs above 4.
    Everything you suggested is decent except this. Thinking about this one for about 4 seconds will tell you that it is not a material change from what currently exists.

    Current: FC house goes boom if untouched 45 days
    Suggested: FC house goes boom if members list is not maintenanced for 45 days

    "They're the same picture"

    Literally asking SE to do a bunch of work to zero end on that one.
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