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    Quote Originally Posted by Sotaris View Post
    Problem with this, is server hardware cost. That's why they are pretty slow on adding new ones until it's really needed.
    A couple of things SE should probably do if they are hellbent on keeping supply low:
    • End personal house grandfathering
    • End shell FC housing

    If we are going to forever deal with a limited supply, all players must be restricted to one personal house per server per subscription, and an FC should not be allowed to hold a house if it does not have at least four unique active subscriptions associated with that FC.

    The housing supply has to be optimized and fairly distributed and SE must end a player controlling a single ward without paying for a lot of subs to make it work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    The housing supply has to be optimized and fairly distributed and SE must end a player controlling a single ward without paying for a lot of subs to make it work.
    You have no right to do that, especially for those 2 guys on Mateus
    They choose a server where no one want to go there at the time.
    They started a project on something that no once cares at the time.
    They have the foresight and you don't.

    Your subscription never guarantee you a house by default, it is only player self-proclaimed.
    You only gain the right to access, it is never 100%.
    It is same as you are not guaranteed with Savage Eden drop just because you have a subscription, you worked for it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    You have no right to do that, especially for those 2 guys on Mateus
    Those two guys on Mateus deserve to have all but one of their personal houses stripped and all of their shell FCs disbanded. If you disagree with that, you are part of the problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    They choose a server where no one want to go there at the time.
    They started a project on something that no once cares at the time.
    They had their fun, and it's time for that to end because the needs of the many outweigh the infantile desires of the one (or in this case, two).

    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    It is same as you are not guaranteed with Savage Eden drop just because you have a subscription, you worked for it
    Those two are completely incomparable things since there's no limit to the number of Eden Savage drops... but there is a limit to the number of houses. I mean, you can run any instance as many times as you want in a week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    Those two guys on Mateus deserve to have all but one of their personal houses stripped and all of their shell FCs disbanded. If you disagree with that, you are part of the problem.
    Figure out how to give them back the time they spent building that stuff, and then we'll just go ahead and do a refund.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catstab View Post
    Figure out how to give them back the time they spent building that stuff, and then we'll just go ahead and do a refund.
    Absolutely not. They abused the housing system so they should suffer the consequences - and in this case, get screwed over because of their greed.

    I mean, SE isn't going to properly fix the supply issue anytime soon, so the only other option they have is to forcibly release houses on people that are tying up more than their fair share of land.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    Absolutely not. They abused the housing system so they should suffer the consequences - and in this case, get screwed over because of their greed.

    I mean, SE isn't going to properly fix the supply issue anytime soon, so the only other option they have is to forcibly release houses on people that are tying up more than their fair share of land.
    Just refund the price of the houses and if they’ve got too much furniture tied up there well bully for them I guess. At this point I don’t really care too much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    No thanks. Housing is fine as it is

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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    Absolutely not. They abused the housing system <...>

    Gonna go ahead and stop you right there, since you're dead wrong.

    Playing a game within the rules of that game isn't abuse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    Absolutely not. They abused the housing system so they should suffer the consequences - and in this case, get screwed over because of their greed.

    I mean, SE isn't going to properly fix the supply issue anytime soon, so the only other option they have is to forcibly release houses on people that are tying up more than their fair share of land.
    There was no abuse. They didn't glitch to do this. They just managed to afford several houses. Abuse implies some sort of exploiting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catstab View Post
    Gonna go ahead and stop you right there, since you're dead wrong.

    <But I'm a hypocrite advocating for further abuse and oppression>
    It is when you're negatively impacting others. And stop trying to defend the indefensible.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arielen View Post
    There was no abuse. They didn't glitch to do this. They just managed to afford several houses. Abuse implies some sort of exploiting.
    Given the restrictions, it's pretty clear that they did something SE did not intend them to do, otherwise they wouldn't have felt the need to pen what's on https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes.../housing_land/ .

    You can keep deluding yourself that the restrictions weren't the original SE intention but SE naively thought people wouldn't get greedy and buy up wards then were forced to implement that policy once it became a problem due to lack of supply.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    Those two guys on Mateus deserve to have all but one of their personal houses stripped and all of their shell FCs disbanded. If you disagree with that, you are part of the problem.
    They had their fun, and it's time for that to end because the needs of the many outweigh the infantile desires of the one (or in this case, two).
    To be honest, no, you are just witch hunting like a zealot ignoring all senses and logics.
    These two players bought these plots when no one wanted them (that is a fact) and they put in time, effort and gils to create a legacy of their own. That shouldn't be taken away just all of sudden community want a house plot.

    They are not source of the problem as they follow the rules S/E created and it was SE's mistake because they allow personal housing instead of keep it as FC only. Can you blame S/E? NO you can't You are blinded if you ignored the fact upon until Personal Housing is installed, 2/3 of housing wards are emptied.

    On other hand, you are the source of a lot of NA player's living nightmare with that little reclaim timer idea of yours. Not saying it is not an effective method, but it nevertheless is short sighted because SE too didn't expect players will try to camp it 24 hours straight.

    This is also why I am not buying any short sighed ideas such as casino, etc.
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