Results 1 to 10 of 109

Hybrid View

  1. #1
    Player
    Craiger's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2013
    Posts
    747
    Character
    Atiqa Craiger
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Karl0217 View Post
    Like I said earlier this thing is almost exactly like Living Shadow from Dark Knight:

    Conjure a simulacrum of your darkside to fight alongside you.
    Simulacrum Attack Potency: 300
    Duration: 24s
    Blood Gauge Cost: 50

    OGCD attack tied to a pump-and-dump job gauge. It can almost be guaranteed that Reaper will have a similar set up for its voidsent. The class is a DPS specced Dark Knight with some different animations, an extra combo and a few gimmicks like its version of Delirium gives the character's outfit a new temporary skin.
    How is it like living shadow though?

    That shadow persists for a longer duration, while you can clearly see that the void avatar for Reaper only performs 1 attack and then disappears again. It doesn't actually persist at all after that.

    Think you have to take a look at that Reaper video again.

    Of course we don't know much of the job, but that's based on what we can see so far at least.
    (0)

  2. #2
    Player
    Karl0217's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2018
    Location
    Ul'dah
    Posts
    167
    Character
    Koh'a Ganajai
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Craiger View Post
    How is it like living shadow though?

    That shadow persists for a longer duration, while you can clearly see that the void avatar for Reaper only performs 1 attack and then disappears again. It doesn't actually persist at all after that.

    Think you have to take a look at that Reaper video again.

    Of course we don't know much of the job, but that's based on what we can see so far at least.
    It is an OGCD attack animation designed to look like a pet tied to a pump-and-dump job gauge. The fact that the void avatar is designed to be fired more often in short bursts since it is a DPS class as opposed to Dark Knight's Living Shadow doesn't change the fact that it is the same basic concept. Just the same way after Reaper merged with its voidsent they performed the same attack three times in a row tells you it is a variant of Delirium / Inner Release.
    (1)

  3. #3
    Player
    Rymi64's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2020
    Posts
    299
    Character
    Ren Crowe
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Karl0217 View Post
    It is an OGCD attack animation designed to look like a pet tied to a pump-and-dump job gauge. The fact that the void avatar is designed to be fired more often in short bursts since it is a DPS class as opposed to Dark Knight's Living Shadow doesn't change the fact that it is the same basic concept. Just the same way after Reaper merged with its voidsent they performed the same attack three times in a row tells you it is a variant of Delirium / Inner Release.
    Considering the fact this is not the job actions trailer and is the REVEAL trailer and dont know much about how it plays, thats bold of you to say its a variant of Inner release.
    (3)

  4. #4
    Player
    Karl0217's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2018
    Location
    Ul'dah
    Posts
    167
    Character
    Koh'a Ganajai
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Rymi64 View Post
    Considering the fact this is not the job actions trailer and is the REVEAL trailer and dont know much about how it plays, thats bold of you to say its a variant of Inner release.
    Oh, you mean like the Dancer reveal trailer ? Yeah, you didn't get to see the AoE attacks but you got a pretty good look at its single-target toolkit.

    Or how about the Red Mage one? You could tell exactly how that class would perform in a boss fight from that trailer.

    Samurai reveal trailer? Same thing, real good look at the class's single target abilities and AoE toolkit is absent.

    If these three previous DPS reveal trailers are any indication you have already seen the bulk of Reaper's single target toolkit. The only thing you haven't seen is any party support abilities it might have and its AoE toolkit.
    (1)

  5. #5
    Player
    Katie_Kitty's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2018
    Posts
    952
    Character
    Princess Whiskers
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Karl0217 View Post
    Oh, you mean like the Dancer reveal trailer ? Yeah, you didn't get to see the AoE attacks but you got a pretty good look at its single-target toolkit.

    Or how about the Red Mage one? You could tell exactly how that class would perform in a boss fight from that trailer.

    Samurai reveal trailer? Same thing, real good look at the class's single target abilities and AoE toolkit is absent.

    If these three previous DPS reveal trailers are any indication you have already seen the bulk of Reaper's single target toolkit. The only thing you haven't seen is any party support abilities it might have and its AoE toolkit.
    I cant comment on the other since I havent looked at them but the RDM video absolutely does not show everything it has to offer. Not even close. Hell, just off the top of my head, the RDM jumps into melee range and then only uses a SINGLE melee attack before jumping back out and casting verflare/holy.

    By your logic, we can assume that RDM"s melee combo is only a single melee attack. Is that what you think we should be doing for reaper?
    (5)

  6. #6
    Player
    Kalaam's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2019
    Location
    Limsa-Lominsa
    Posts
    781
    Character
    Kalaam Nozalys
    World
    Phantom
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Katie_Kitty View Post
    I cant comment on the other since I havent looked at them but the RDM video absolutely does not show everything it has to offer. Not even close. Hell, just off the top of my head, the RDM jumps into melee range and then only uses a SINGLE melee attack before jumping back out and casting verflare/holy.

    By your logic, we can assume that RDM"s melee combo is only a single melee attack. Is that what you think we should be doing for reaper?
    Exactly. In those videos there is tons of cheating from the devs to skip part of the rotation etc. From the RDM we only saw: it dual casts, it has a gap closer, a melee attack, a disengage, and it can insta cast a big spell. It didn't even dual cast a black magic and white magic spell, only Jolt into VerAero
    (2)

  7. #7
    Player
    Karl0217's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2018
    Location
    Ul'dah
    Posts
    167
    Character
    Koh'a Ganajai
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Katie_Kitty View Post
    I cant comment on the other since I havent looked at them but the RDM video absolutely does not show everything it has to offer. Not even close. Hell, just off the top of my head, the RDM jumps into melee range and then only uses a SINGLE melee attack before jumping back out and casting verflare/holy.
    From that video I could tell Red Mage had about 2-3 white magic attack spells, 2-3 dark magic attack spells; that it would alternate between them to build up a gauge to empower its melee attacks; that it had an OGCD jump attack and a OGCD backflip; and 2-3 melee attacks. I could tell that in a fight against a single-target like a boss the class would be alternating between white and dark attacks until a gauge was filled and would then jump in to deliver a couple of powerful melee attacks and then jump back out. The process would then repeat. Wouldn't you know, the class turned out to play almost exactly like that.

    Dancer video I could tell the class had about 4, possibly 5, GCD single target attacks; at least one OGCD single-target attack; and two dances, the buttons probably being on a 30-60 second timer, to buff the character and possibly other players. Again, fairly close to the money.

    Samurai video I could tell it had 2, possibly 3, GCD melee combos since it showcased 7 different GCD attacks and that it was building a gauge to unleash a potent attack.

    Quote Originally Posted by Katie_Kitty View Post
    By your logic, we can assume that RDM"s melee combo is only a single melee attack. Is that what you think we should be doing for reaper?
    By your logic we have only seen 1/3 of Reaper's single-target melee abilities, do you think that is accurate?
    (0)

  8. #8
    Player
    Kalaam's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2019
    Location
    Limsa-Lominsa
    Posts
    781
    Character
    Kalaam Nozalys
    World
    Phantom
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Karl0217 View Post
    From that video I could tell Red Mage had about 2-3 white magic attack spells, 2-3 dark magic attack spells; that it would alternate between them to build up a gauge to empower its melee attacks; that it had an OGCD jump attack and a OGCD backflip; and 2-3 melee attacks. I could tell that in a fight against a single-target like a boss the class would be alternating between white and dark attacks until a gauge was filled and would then jump in to deliver a couple of powerful melee attacks and then jump back out. The process would then repeat. Wouldn't you know, the class turned out to play almost exactly like that.

    Dancer video I could tell the class had about 4, possibly 5, GCD single target attacks; at least one OGCD single-target attack; and two dances, the buttons probably being on a 30-60 second timer, to buff the character and possibly other players. Again, fairly close to the money.

    Samurai video I could tell it had 2, possibly 3, GCD melee combos since it showcased 7 different GCD attacks and that it was building a gauge to unleash a potent attack.



    By your logic we have only seen 1/3 of Reaper's single-target melee abilities, do you think that is accurate?
    Congratulation man. You are a precog. Sadly we don't all see the future.

    You have speculated that Red Mage had blade magic, this was an easy enough guess given the history of the job. If you already know everything about RPR and know you won't like it, why are you here then ?
    If you have nothing to add, just read what others have to say.
    (4)
    Last edited by Kalaam; 05-17-2021 at 07:48 AM.