FFXIV: Limited Job and why it doesn't work

[Arkdra]

People still complain about blu? The original iteration was terrible but they largely fixed it when the cap moved to 60 and this last round of spells was super cool. I actually get a lot of mileage out of blu now, use it all the time for catbook and other random overworld stuff.

[Ultimatecalibur]

What else is Yoshida going to say? "No. We're disappointed with the reception." That only adds to the already existing stigma.

Yes, he would say something like that if they actually found BLU to be a failure.

As for announcing a second Limited Job. They announced Blue Mage at NA Fanfest, well over a year before Shadowbringers release. Fanfest is literally the vehicle they use to showcase major content. They aren't going to announce a second Limited Job randomly a month or two before Endwalker. They've never added anything suddenly like that before. Likewise, if reception of Limited Jobs were positive, they wouldn't put it on ice for two years. Case in point, Delubrum is already being cited as continuing in the next expansion. Bozja is another example, having succeeded Eureka.

Something to keep in mind. When they advertised Blue Mage, Yoshida outright mentioned they were already pondering Beastmaster and Puppetmaster as potential second Limited Jobs. To go from hinting at follow up additions to putting the whole system on ice for two years isn't a ringing endorsement of the content.

The system has not been on Ice for two years. BLU got updates in both 5.1 and 5.4 when it was introduced in 4.5. 2020 was also a crappy development year that caused a lot of content delays even if they did manage to get back on track. I would not be surprised if BST was planned for a 5.5 release originally but was pushed back into 6.X because of 2020.

[ItMe]

I actually get a lot of mileage out of blu now, use it all the time for catbook and other random overworld stuff.

What is catbook?

[kaynide]

Just my two cents:

While I generally enjoy Blu and the concept of limited jobs, I agree how it was done was very..lackluster.

It should have been completely solo-capable and not rely on any group instanced content. All abilities should have been open world or gained within the masked carnival itself (eg a fight against Garuda within the carnival). Or, alternatively from semi-open world stuff like Eureka.

I would also have removed xp gain entirely from the job, instead making its power/level entirely based on how much of the carnival one has cleared.

I approve of the job if only because we can do Blu-soccer

[kaynide]

What is catbook?

That weekly “do the things” book thing from Khole.

[Duskane]

I just don't understand why we cant just have both
limited blue for what we have now and a normal blue just for regular content
like the irony of blue being this job that can do everything but its limited.

like stop adding instruments to bard and just make a real blue mage

[ForteNightshade]

I mean... they've done it before.
Them being consistent makes more sense to me than them suddenly gas lighting us.

When? Even Diadem and LoV Yoshida hasn't outright disparaged despite the former being overhauled three times and the latter more or less abandoned.

The consistent trend they've shown is when content is well received they either repeat or build on top of it. We've seen that with Deep Dungeon, Eureka, Delubrim and etc.

First point: not giving us a second job doesn't equate to putting "the whole system on ice for two years." BLU has continued to get updates in spite of the pandemic forcing them to axe all, what was the phrase, "non-essential content?"

Additionally: You're right in that he teased Beast Master and Puppet Master, but what he didn't mention was their timetable. I want more just as much as you do. I'm itching for it. It doesn't seem like we have any reason to set their deadline to Friday.

That is literally the definition of the term "put on ice". It means to stop working on a project or do so sparingly at best. Deep Dungeon would be an example fitting this category for Shadowbringers. Speaking of, they're bringing it back purely due to player demand. It wasn't intended to come back, or so was implied.

Blue Mage being updated doesn't mean they'll continue Limited Jobs beyond this initial outing. They announced already having a set number of abilities already in development at the time of its release. This suggests a great deal of the work had been done earlier.

Ultimately, I could very much be wrong. As someone who has every ability and actually enjoys Blue Mage, I'd like for them to do more with the system. But I'm well aware it simply isn't popular and never has been. Hence my conclusion.

The system has not been on Ice for two years. BLU got updates in both 5.1 and 5.4 when it was introduced in 4.5. 2020 was also a crappy development year that caused a lot of content delays even if they did manage to get back on track. I would not be surprised if BST was planned for a 5.5 release originally but was pushed back into 6.X because of 2020.

Please re-read my post. I specifically referred to them not releasing a new Limited Job would be putting the system on ice. Not that it currently is.

[Brightamethyst]

What is catbook?

Wondrous Tails, I'm guessing.

[Mariel_Crystallie]

I just don't understand why we cant just have both
limited blue for what we have now and a normal blue just for regular content
like the irony of blue being this job that can do everything but its limited.

like stop adding instruments to bard and just make a real blue mage

THIS!! ... I really want say it to dev team like this since long time ago... like we can keep the current BLU while having the official BLU as main job too , while on the main job we can use the skill we collect as glamour skills or something else...

[HisShadowX]

Wait till we get Mimic lol

I never liked the Blue Mage at all from any final fantasy and often never used those characters