FFXIV: Limited Job and why it doesn't work

[ItMe]

What else is Yoshida going to say? "No. We're disappointed with the reception."

I mean... they've done it before.
Them being consistent makes more sense to me than them suddenly gas lighting us.

As for announcing a second Limited Job. They announced Blue Mage at NA Fanfest, well over a year before Shadowbringers release. Fanfest is literally the vehicle they use to showcase major content. They aren't going to announce a second Limited Job randomly a month or two before Endwalker.

Sure, that's how they did it with BLU, but one data point does not make a pattern. Sure, we might be able to make some guesses based off that, but the conclusion I feel you're so ready to jump to (no 2nd limited job? So they agree it's a failure then) is not a reasonable conclusion to draw.

Something to keep in mind. When they advertised Blue Mage, Yoshida outright mentioned they were already pondering Beastmaster and Puppetmaster as potential second Limited Jobs. To go from hinting at follow up additions to putting the whole system on ice for two years isn't a ringing endorsement of the content.

First point: not giving us a second job doesn't equate to putting "the whole system on ice for two years." BLU has continued to get updates in spite of the pandemic forcing them to axe all, what was the phrase, "non-essential content?"

Additionally: You're right in that he teased Beast Master and Puppet Master, but what he didn't mention was their timetable. I want more just as much as you do. I'm itching for it. It doesn't seem like we have any reason to set their deadline to Friday.

[Ultimatecalibur]

What else is Yoshida going to say? "No. We're disappointed with the reception." That only adds to the already existing stigma.

Yes, he would say something like that if they actually found BLU to be a failure.

As for announcing a second Limited Job. They announced Blue Mage at NA Fanfest, well over a year before Shadowbringers release. Fanfest is literally the vehicle they use to showcase major content. They aren't going to announce a second Limited Job randomly a month or two before Endwalker. They've never added anything suddenly like that before. Likewise, if reception of Limited Jobs were positive, they wouldn't put it on ice for two years. Case in point, Delubrum is already being cited as continuing in the next expansion. Bozja is another example, having succeeded Eureka.

Something to keep in mind. When they advertised Blue Mage, Yoshida outright mentioned they were already pondering Beastmaster and Puppetmaster as potential second Limited Jobs. To go from hinting at follow up additions to putting the whole system on ice for two years isn't a ringing endorsement of the content.

The system has not been on Ice for two years. BLU got updates in both 5.1 and 5.4 when it was introduced in 4.5. 2020 was also a crappy development year that caused a lot of content delays even if they did manage to get back on track. I would not be surprised if BST was planned for a 5.5 release originally but was pushed back into 6.X because of 2020.

[Curisu]

In my eyes blue needs to be able to join deep dungeons and ultimates. BUT when there is a blu in group, you don't get the rare titles or any loot from the ultimates.

It would be nice to have the chance to do it as Blu, just for fun without a big reward. (Maybe hidden archivements for blu only ultimate clears)

[Brightamethyst]

Limited jobs as a concept are fine. Not everything has to be viable in all situations. It's okay to have self contained side content. It may be disappointing for everyone who wanted BLU to be a standard job, but that doesn't somehow make it a broken feature.

[Stormfur]

I keep hoping they'll see that BLU is a lot like the Summoner/Scholar branch. An experiment, but one that didn't really turn out the way it was planned. We'd like BLU to come play with the rest of us.

[Stepjam]

Honestly I think BLU is in a pretty good spot right now. It's got a wide range of utility, it's got a spell that lets you solo dungeons now, lots of good stuff. I'd say it could perhaps use a few more tank skills since you are still pretty squishy even with a tank build.

Perhaps they could/should add more long term incentives to keep people playing BLU for longer, but otherwise I got no complaints about it. And it's not like BLU content is 100% dead, you can generally get a couple people in PF to run dungeons to get spells.

[Seraphor]

"Hi, I've spent 5 hours writing a thesis on why you shouldn't enjoy something, please pay attention to me."

[_Koneko_]

the instant death spells would be a valid point if was not for anything you want to actually them on being immune :P

[ItMe]

My mixed feelings on BLU aside, I hope they only continue to expand the limited job system.
Not just for the sake of BLU, but also because it feels like limited jobs might be my only way to see Puppetmaster in FF14 lol.

[ItMe]

For anyone's reference I found the interview where Yoshi P said BLU was a success:

As far as whether or not Square Enix considers it a success, Yoshida answered with a resounding "yes."

So I really don't think that if they don't announce another limited job it is any indication they're not happy with BLU.

https://www.destructoid.com/stories/...e-543587.phtml