Final Fantasy XIV and a Culture of Enabling

[linayar]

Though once someone leaves the party the rest are also able to follow suit or they can stay and wait for replacements. My suggestion still works under the assumption that if people leave others are free to leave without penalty.

Don't you also get a free leave if someone gets kicked? If that were the case, people would just vote kick anyway so they can get a free leave whether it passes or fails. I don't think we should promote a culture of leavers.

[Awha]

Don't you also get a free leave if someone gets kicked? If that were the case, people would just vote kick anyway so they can get a free leave whether it passes or fails. I don't think we should promote a culture of leavers.

Yes, only if someone leaves or gets removed. Though my suggestion was based around the idea that if a vote fails the people who do not wish to stay should not have to eat a timer due to that difference. So yes that may happen though I am of the mindset it is better to allow a person more options to leave without punishment instead of putting people through an experience they may not want to go through. I think it builds more resentment and has a greater potential to cause conflict or strife in a dungeon.

Which is why I also do not see anything wrong with people leaving content and personally I would vote to get rid of the timer all together though I know that is an extreme that many will not agree with. Granted, what would be awesome if they did remove the timer for leaving it just allowed someone to switch roles and still get exp for the role the queued in as akin to pvp. Though my mindset stems from playing many f2p mmos were leavers are very common so it just does not phase me when people leave. Guess it is not as much of an issue in my eyes though I can see how it can annoying.

To be fair, do people not use that unironically in game or are you telling me it's just a meme?

Tbf i think to FFXIV is meme to most people, at least that is how it seems to perceived by many on the internet.