Criticism of Shadowbringers and the hostility there in

[LaylaTsarra]

And yet, when people point out that, content for content, there has been just as much as previous expansions, if not more in some areas, we get "well that doesn't count" because reasons.

It's not what they want so it doesn't count. The it's all about me and what I like brigade loves to push there is less content mantra cause it fits their agenda.

[strawberrycake]

It's not what they want so it doesn't count. The it's all about me and what I like brigade loves to push there is less content mantra cause it fits their agenda.

You are truly missing the point then which is sad.

Unless you can break down how all of the current content is better then what was offered in stormblood?

[LaylaTsarra]

You are truly missing the point then which is sad.

I'm not missing the point. I see it very clearly. I prefer not to waste my time arguing with those who prefer to push their less content agenda. I've got tons of stuff to do in game. Let's be sure to push the less dungeons tune too while we're at it cause everyone loves to run dungeons.

[strawberrycake]

I'm not missing the point. I see it very clearly. I prefer not to waste my time arguing with those who prefer to push their less content agenda. I've got tons of stuff to do in game. Let's be sure to push the less dungeons tune too while we're at it cause everyone loves to run dungeons.

Yes because acknowledging how things could be better and encouraging feed back and change in an iterative game is pushing an agenda.

[LaylaTsarra]

Yes because acknowledging how things could be better and encouraging feed back and change in an iterative game is pushing an agenda.

Things are better. Complaining about everything doesn't make things better. The dev team has reacted to feedback just not yours sorry.

[ZedxKayn]

Things are better.

"Source: me"

[strawberrycake]

Things are better. Complaining about everything doesn't make things better. The dev team has reacted to feedback just not yours sorry.

Can you give me a break down of what is better, from the stand point of the content, how players engage with it, its depth and nuance.
How it conflicted with other forms of content if it did, if the conflict occured was the prior content rendered moot or not?

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Can you give me a break down of what is better, from the stand point of the content, how players engage with it, its depth and nuance.
How it conflicted with other forms of content if it did, if the conflict occured was the prior content rendered moot or not?

Eureka: people complained they HAD to do Eureka to get the relic and couldn't do normal content stuff like in the past.

Bozja: can do some normal content stuff to get the relic like in the past.

Firmament doesn't take anything away from beast tribes, unless you only do them for EXP. I've never had the option to do beast tribes for EXP, so that must be nice. Hell, I didn't have the option to do Firmament for EXP.

We got essentially 2 extra alliance raids with Bozja, compared to three we normally get. I found both of them fun, but then, I find most content in this game fun. Its why I still play it 10 years later. (or 8 if you want to nitpick ARR)

Everyone complained when Hildabrand was lame because they ran out of ideas but did it anyway because people wanted it. Now people complain they aren't doing it anyway.

He'll likely be back in 6.x at some point.


The reason people constantly have issues with criticism on these boards, is that its almost always "this thing sucks, they should have just done something else, or done a better version of the thing we hated before, even though this is similar to that and many would consider it an upgrade to said content" or my favorite "they should turn this game into a different game by changing core game aspects because us people who liked that game want it in this game too" despite people liking the way this game is...

[strawberrycake]

Things are better. Complaining about everything doesn't make things better. The dev team has reacted to feedback just not yours sorry.

Also if you're going to be a contrian, at least be a good one

The Entire point is that in the end Criticism and feed back is good, if we don;t know whats going on internally at SE or Creative Unit 3 How can we as consumers understand our game better, if you dont want to, or don't care to fine. But for those who do they have the right to. Even if its tiny over sights, or things that don;t matter to some in the end, its not wrong of them to still voice their opinions.

As a paying consumer, I have a right so long as this game operates to give feed back to this game, to expect transparency and to expect the game to be better with each new iteration as it is a life time service game. If you're getting your wallets worth goos for you, If the games fun for you, good for you. But never, and I mean never act as if criticism is bad or an, Agenda

[LisSquid]

Yes because acknowledging how things could be better and encouraging feed back and change in an iterative game is pushing an agenda.

It's funny that you made a point that anyone who has anything slightly negative to say about the game is met with accusations of pushing an agenda or told to just unsub, and here those people come!

It may be a surprise to some people: saying you want more from the game you love is kind of what happens when you truly care and enjoy a game. If people truly hated this game, they wouldn't be saying SE could do better. They wouldn't be saying anything at all. It's in bad faith to sweet criticisms under a rug because you believe there is a group of people who somehow just want to be upset for the sake of it.

Humans are multifaceted. I can complain to high heaven about how the Tower, a dungeon, and a wing of Eden are literally unplayable to me as a blind person. That doesn't mean I'm not having fun in this game. We are capable of having complex thoughts and emotions, huh, isn't that weird!!!??