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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    This, in turn, makes them the weakest role overall.
    No, it doesn't.

    Power isn't just damage. Power is the combined total of stats and toolkit breadth.

    Dealing the least amount of damage makes the role the one that deals the least amount of damage. That's it.

    Unless you want to tell me Healers were the weakest role in Heavensward or Stormblood, you may want to reconsider your stance here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    No, it doesn't.

    Power isn't just damage. Power is the combined total of stats and toolkit breadth.

    Dealing the least amount of damage makes the role the one that deals the least amount of damage. That's it.

    Unless you want to tell me Healers were the weakest role in Heavensward or Stormblood, you may want to reconsider your stance here.
    Except I wasn't only talking about power but impact and the overall gameplay of tanks.

    Healers had and still have impact, albeit less than before given the current state of things. Not only do they have to heal, but have to plan out said healing in harder content. Compare that to tanks in say, Eden's Promise. They press their Invuln, faceroll every CD they have and press their Invuln again. That and dragging the boss south once is the only impact they have in an eight minute fight beyond being a damage sponge. The OT literally wouldn't have a purpose whatsoever if the boss did tank buster both tanks. It's that lack of impact on a given fight that brings down the role as a whole. And with the low damage, they no longer have even that to fall back on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    Except I wasn't only talking about power but impact and the overall gameplay of tanks.
    These are not related to a role's strength.

    See the problem with your claim?

    Up the tank's damage by 10%, Eden's Promise health increases 2%, and what changed, exactly?

    Nothing.

    You'd still faceroll your cooldowns, you'd still move the boss once south, you'd still kitchen sink the buster.

    But hey, at least you're not the "Weakest role in the game" anymore.
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