Quote Originally Posted by EirolOcarrol View Post
I've been playing and enjoying Final Fantasy XIV since 1.0.

I'm not sure how criticizing metagaming or the idea of "casual elitism" means that I don't like Final Fantasy XIV.
ANd as someone who has raided since coils, as someone who knows plenty of people in the ultimate community, I can tell you theres nothing to challenge. The Meta game only applies to when you;re world first progging and trying to clear week one. No raid group I've been in cared for meta, no cares for meta because they're skill carried them far enough, even in the group of people I know currently progging TEA, as their first Ultimate, they dont care for anything *meta* as you say.

If you, or people you know have ran into people like that, I can assure you plenty of people in the raiding community, Ultimate and Savage, think they're mean and toxic as well. And sorry this post does come across as if you've experienced a very toxic time in FF and have had bad experience after bad experience. If thats not the case I can admit I'm wrong. But if you think people are wrong for expecting a lot of the lazier players in this game to pick up their own slack, I think you;re wrong for seeing them as *meta* gamers, they just dont wanna deal with people who arent trying all the time.