Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
Far from salty just having an open discussion with ya. Though not sure if the salty comment was sarcasm or not.

Funny thing I only run into people that are against it on the forums in game as I said most groups just remove the player being slow. I am not bending the group to my will as I said either it passes or it does not. If it does not have I choice to make leave or conform though by in large most groups agree and we go on with our day.

Getting removed is not a personal attack it is just a choice that a group makes if they do not want to play with someone. Not sure how that is petty not like I can remove someone with just my vote.

In the end it is a weird dynamic if the vote passes doesn't that mean the group was in favor? So what is the problem follow your mindset the group spoke and just used the vote system instead of words. If the group wanted to go fast but just went along with the pace of the person being slow doesn't that mean the person being slow imposed their will on the rest of the group. Though in there case it is okay because it is a roulette yet the same is not true for the other side? It is a roulette you may get a group that wants to go fast or you may get one that wants to go slow. Why does the one that wants to go slow get the benefit of the doubt but the one that wants to go quick is told they should just go at the slower pace.

No need to cater to the weakest link when you can just remove said link.

I also greatly enjoy these kind of discussions because it allows me to try and gain a better understand on how others view something. It is fun for me so once again if I am coming off as salty or annoyed not my intent I find this conversation enlightening. Cause generally the people I play with think the same. Sometimes they kick some then ask for someone to fill in over discord. That is just how we play. So seeing how others handle situations is cool.
You seem to have a very high standard for DF groups, in another thread you said you left because the healer didn't use sprint between pulls. If that's your standard then cool but you'd probably find PF a better tool than DF. You do impose those standards on others though, by firstly pulling for the tank then kicking them ASAP. Im not a fan of that approach personally and while I obviously have standards I relax them considerably in DF content as random groups are random. If the party can clear the content and nobody is taking the piss then I take what I get.

I can honestly say I've never been kicked from a duty but it doesn't take a master in psychology to imagine for some people it would be quite upsetting or at least damage their confidence, especially on a job like tank where confidence is the greatest barrier to many people trying it. I don't really see the need to do that to someone if the biggest complaint you have is their pull size is quite as much fun as you want it to be.