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    Iris Nakiri
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    Fun is subjective.

    For many players the fun in MMO instances is in the fact that a lot of content is a team based activity that you get through together as a group. Working together with people to beat content is fun for them. Toxic elitism is expecting high end performance in casual content, which is unnecessary. Mistakes, deaths, wipes and learning is fine if someone is trying. However, "toxic casualism" is where one players comes in and works against the team, say an Ice mage with gear 50ilv too low and reacts aggressively towards tips because not bothering is more "fun" for them. In this case one person is disregarding the overall experience and fun for 3-7 other people playing the game as intended, to prioritize their own fun. Sort of like joining football team and insisting on using a tennis racquet because it's just a game and it's meant to be fun.

    This selfish attitude and feeling of entitlement to having everything their way and being carried, regardless of others, is unique to the western playerbase. It is not the sort of behavior things like parser bans were designed for.
    And if everyone was competent and worked well together all group content would be an absolute roflstomp including the high end group content, the game is not designed to require anywhere near this level of performance because it is a video game, not someone's main source of self worth or a job, so even if someone is performing below average in a group you can still do the content JUST FINE.

    The issue seems to be that people who have attached their ego on their performance seem to have a really huge dislike of those casuals who dont obsess over it in a game that neither asks nor requires it unless you start telling me those people who want to play "ice mage" joined your ultimate group, it is actually a good thing not everyone is great otherwise the content would be an absolutely boring roflstomp all the way up. Carrying people is normal, you do that with your friends, you do that in your guild, you do that in roulettes all day and as long as the content does not require everyone to be performing great there is literally 0 problem with people who play a game for fun, not for parsing and to get self worth through video game performance. Now if the group is below average and seem to have problems and instead try to blame the one person below them, then sorry you failed as a group, not because of that one person considering how generous the requirements are for most of group content.

    Thankfully this game is very different than WoW which is exactly why I like it and the community so much more, because that elitist attitude doesnt fly.

    And I ll remind you that a video game is about having fun, not being forced to play or do something for the sake of someone ELSE's fun.



    Quote Originally Posted by Fluxating View Post
    A tank or healer not knowing how to play their job properly, that's probably a wipe.
    And you know what we did during those rare times? We voted to abandon, no drama, no angry attacks, no whining, we simply moved on and kept having fun in the video game we play instead of pretending some kind of disaster has befallen us
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    Last edited by Ralph2449; 03-14-2021 at 01:07 AM. Reason: Added quote