Tired of Zenos (spoilers)

[Lauront]

Same here. Heck, we didn't even get to see him defeat Elidibus to take his body back. It was just kind of one of those "Yeah, by the way, this happened" kind of moments. I know there's a lot of those kinds of moments in the game, but they were already showing Gaius and Estinien in the palace so the fact that they had that "Oh, by the way..." moment just kinda felt... convenient, I guess would be the word? lol

I suspect that is something to do with Elidibus being a primal, since Zenos denies a fight happened and laments that. Elidibus, while not on par with Emet-Selch, is no weakling. So my supposition is that it's an aetheric tug of some sort. When Elidibus pays the body compliments, I believe it's more to do with its ability to conduct aether. Ascians don't care much about physical strength, as they can enhance their hosts (e.g. Nabriales) and take on any form they please, however Emet hinted at the fact that at least for a full powered unsundered like him, the host does limit them somewhat, thus he shed it. This probably has something to do with the Resonance in Zenos's case enhancing the body's ability to conduct aether, hence letting Elidibus in it express more of his power. Either way, it was poorly explained and ad hoc, but hey ho.

On a more positive note (lol), it's possible that Zenos' reliance on simply overpowering everything will end up proving his undoing when he tries to defeat Zodiark to take his power. Hopefully Zodiark will essentially grind him into dust with a big fat "NOPE", when Zenos confronts him... if he even gets that far. lol

Or he gets the "bright" idea that since Hydaelyn "won" the first time round, why not go for her. She's also in the planet and thus hooked into the Aetherial Sea.

[Nothv13]

I suspect that is something to do with Elidibus being a primal, since Zenos denies a fight happened and laments that. Elidibus, while not on par with Emet-Selch, is no weakling. So my supposition is that it's an aetheric tug of some sort.

It also could come down to Zeno's artificial echo as it seems each person's echo allows some sort of different power and Zeno's was able to control a Primal, so with Elidibus being a part of a primal, he may had been able to do something to him to completely nullify him.

[Lauront]

It also could come down to Zeno's artificial echo as it seems each person's echo allows some sort fo different power and Zeno's was able to control a Primal, so with Elidibus being a part of a primal, he may had been able to do something to him to completely nullify him.

Yup, that's what I am getting at. Although his "echo" is more souped up than most, but at its core, the Echo is just a fraction of an ancient's powers. He had the benefit of Aulus taking a scientific approach to it and bestowing upon him one that is more "unlocked" than the naturally occurring one in sundered life forms. It stands to reason that since Elidibus's power as a primal scales based on prayer/worship, which he did not have much of at that point, he would be vulnerable to such methods. IMO it's a sleight of hand to make Zenos seem more potent than he really is, and IMO either Hydaelyn or Zenos are going to be a much bigger challenge for him to try control.

[Stirlingite22]

I suspect that is something to do with Elidibus being a primal, since Zenos denies a fight happened and laments that. Elidibus, while not on par with Emet-Selch, is no weakling. So my supposition is that it's an aetheric tug of some sort. When Elidibus pays the body compliments, I believe it's more to do with its ability to conduct aether. Ascians don't care much about physical strength, as they can enhance their hosts (e.g. Nabriales) and take on any form they please, however Emet hinted at the fact that at least for a full powered unsundered like him, the host does limit them somewhat, thus he shed it. This probably has something to do with the Resonance in Zenos's case enhancing the body's ability to conduct aether, hence letting Elidibus in it express more of his power. Either way, it was poorly explained and ad hoc, but hey ho.

Maybe. All I know is that I remember in a cutscene after the palace scene with Gaius and Zenos, etc., they have a scene of Elidibus on the moon not only saying villain things, but also mentioning something along the lines of being surprised that Zenos bested him so easily, possessed of Zenos' body as he was, or something like that. Suggesting that maybe Zenos did just overpower him like just about everything else in his path. lol