Quote Originally Posted by linayar View Post
That would depend on the story. I am only responding to you saying they are rebelling just because they don't like a form of government that you say is not ruled by an evil person. That means the rebellion is unnecessary.

It's not a matter of disagreeing. It's a matter of the conflict they are causing.
Quote Originally Posted by linayar View Post
Yes, it is, when you default to think it's ok to just overthrow an existing government because you felt like it. That's anarchy.
Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
Do you consider the United States definitively "evil" for overthrowing British rule? Is it really all so simple?
Quote Originally Posted by linayar View Post
Surely you are aware of the Declaration of Independence, so your example is not even what we are discussing about unless we've been discussing different topics all along.
Quote Originally Posted by linayar View Post
Nope, they didn't feel like just wanting to be in a different government for no reason. They felt like the ruling government was unjust. We were talking about the opposite kind of emperor.
Quote Originally Posted by linayar View Post
The Declaration of Independence is the US stating their reasoning for their war of independence. It was not simply about rebelling because they felt like it.
Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
But you said they felt the ruling government was unjust.
Quote Originally Posted by linayar View Post
When you create a conflict unnecessarily, then you are evil regardless of your reasoning. If you do not wish to be under a certain form of government, you work within the system to secede from the empire (assuming you are part of a political entity with the same view of government) or you (individually) leave the empire.
Quote Originally Posted by linayar View Post
Doesn't matter what I think about a historical king, but what the colonists think.

But in fictional story, if you're going to say that the emperor is not evil, then the rebels are either mislead/wrong or outright evil for trying to start a rebellion.
Quote Originally Posted by linayar View Post
It depends on the story. If you're going to have a conflict with actual killing and you're expecting me to take side, then there must be good and evil, otherwise the conflict is meaningless and just a simple competition between two sides with no killing would have been a better way to frame the story.
Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
You don't have to take sides. Princess Mononoke is fiction and you don't have to take a side in that conflict.
Quote Originally Posted by linayar View Post
And FFXIV?
I cannot keep up with these moving goal posts.