Tired of Zenos (spoilers)

[linayar]

Conflict is often the best option out of many bad options. That does not mean the conflict is evil.

Yes, it is, when you default to think it's ok to just overthrow an existing government because you felt like it. That's anarchy.

[Edax]

Yes, it is, when you default to think it's ok to just overthrow an existing government because you felt like it. That's anarchy.

I just said it is often the best option out of many bad options, I didn't say you default to it. And why is overthrowing an existing government definitively "evil"? And why is anarchy definitively "evil"?
Do you consider the United States definitively "evil" for overthrowing British rule? Is it really all so simple?

[linayar]

I just said it is often the best option out of many bad options, I didn't say you default to it. And why is overthrowing an existing government definitively "evil"? And why is anarchy definitively "evil"?
Do you consider the United States definitively "evil" for overthrowing British rule? Is it really all so simple?

Surely you are aware of the Declaration of Independence, so your example is not even what we are discussing about unless we've been discussing different topics all along.

[Edax]

That would depend on the story. I am only responding to you saying they are rebelling just because they don't like a form of government that you say is not ruled by an evil person. That means the rebellion is unnecessary.

It's not a matter of disagreeing. It's a matter of the conflict they are causing.

Yes, it is, when you default to think it's ok to just overthrow an existing government because you felt like it. That's anarchy.

Do you consider the United States definitively "evil" for overthrowing British rule? Is it really all so simple?

Surely you are aware of the Declaration of Independence, so your example is not even what we are discussing about unless we've been discussing different topics all along.

Is it not?

[linayar]

Is it not?

The Declaration of Independence is the US stating their reasoning for their war of independence. It was not simply about rebelling because they felt like it.

[Edax]

When you create a conflict unnecessarily, then you are evil regardless of your reasoning. If you do not wish to be under a certain form of government, you work within the system to secede from the empire (assuming you are part of a political entity with the same view of government) or you (individually) leave the empire.

The Declaration of Independence is the US stating their reasoning for their war of independence. It was not simply about rebelling because they felt like it.

Did they not feel like it?

[linayar]

Did they not feel like it?

Nope, they didn't feel like just wanting to be in a different government for no reason. They felt like the ruling government was unjust. We were talking about the opposite kind of emperor.