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    Quote Originally Posted by Fukuro View Post
    What grinds my gears is why nitpick it for male viera then? you just proved lore was broken already so many times. There is only one WHM lorewise but there are thousands of other whitemages „adventurers“ around. There are only a few male miqo‘tes but there still are thousand of other „adventurers“ roaming around?

    we know lore can never be a reason to not implement something - because as seen it was already broken with other things time and time again
    What gets me is people who come out swinging with stuff like "lore can never be a reason to not implement something" thats not my argument. I have never argued that something "cant" happen for X reason; on this subject. Male Viera can happen if the devs make it happen. The reason why I specifically Nitpick at Viera, is because they are essentially a guest character/race in FFXIV. Just like Ezio in Soul Caliber they can be adapted to fit into the world world/setting they are in. But just like guest characters they are usually kept intact; their character personality and lore; basically what makes them...them, remains.
    Im not saying anything to the effect that they "Have" to do anything or else it "Cant" happen. Thats never been my argument.
    My argument is, we should keep things consistent so that we can avoid just breaking more lore. Because at that point why bother writing lore at all?
    Updating the Viera Lore to mention males coming out of hiding is not asking much, but there is resistance to this as if it will hurt Male Viera or something.....when all Im saying is the Viera lore should just be updated. Its silly and is Vague about Male Viera as is, are you saying keep it that way even though now there is Male Viera?

    The White Mage issue, Thats on whoever originally wrote the WHT lore, its an issue in terms of world building I agree. But that has nothing to do with Viera, and it isnt a reason to just toss in Male Viera. As for Miqote, can somebody link me to the lore somewhere that talks about this? I keep hearing about the Male Miqote issue, but I haven't seen it in Miqote lore. Or is this old lore from 1.0 that was changed and re-written in 2.0?
    Must be, because there are plenty of Male Miqote in the game as NPCs, even with voice lines.
    So I dont understand this argument and why it keeps getting used.


    Quote Originally Posted by Fukuro View Post
    if Matsuno gives his green light on male viera (we already have that) and if they are implemented after his imagination, with a little story explaining stuff here and there which is written by him, in all respect there is no need to develop an entire game just because of male viera. i wouldn‘t hold my breath for a new game coming in the next few years that is a mainland game set in ivalice and i don‘t think holding a popular gender of a race back because of that isn‘t the optimal solution. But those are just my two cents.
    No, we aren't just making an entire Game because of Male Viera. The point is Viera come from the Ivalice setting, so if Male Viera suddenly happen, it would make more sense for them to debut in a game that takes place in Ivalice, instead of their Debut being in an MMO. Again, this seems lost on people...Im not saying Male Viera can't happen in FFXIV.
    If they happen, they happen. None of us have the final say, thats on the Devs and however their process works
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    Last edited by Zanarkand-Ronso; 03-08-2021 at 07:17 PM.