Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[Fukuro]

And to the people I know will mention the "WoL is the Exception"...remember, that all other player characters on your screen are recognized as Adventurers, so if they are Male Viera, then it would be recognized that Male Viera are out in the world as Adventurers, and not just the WoL.

What grinds my gears is why nitpick it for male viera then? you just proved lore was broken already so many times. There is only one WHM lorewise but there are thousands of other whitemages „adventurers“ around. There are only a few male miqo‘tes but there still are thousand of other „adventurers“ roaming around?

we know lore can never be a reason to not implement something - because as seen it was already broken with other things time and time again

Plus it would be weird if FFXIV is the 1st time we see a Male Viera instead of in a Mainline Game set in Ivalice.

if Matsuno gives his green light on male viera (we already have that) and if they are implemented after his imagination, with a little story explaining stuff here and there which is written by him, in all respect there is no need to develop an entire game just because of male viera. i wouldn‘t hold my breath for a new game coming in the next few years that is a mainland game set in ivalice and i don‘t think holding a popular gender of a race back because of that isn‘t the optimal solution. But those are just my two cents.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

What grinds my gears is why nitpick it for male viera then? you just proved lore was broken already so many times. There is only one WHM lorewise but there are thousands of other whitemages „adventurers“ around. There are only a few male miqo‘tes but there still are thousand of other „adventurers“ roaming around?

we know lore can never be a reason to not implement something - because as seen it was already broken with other things time and time again

What gets me is people who come out swinging with stuff like "lore can never be a reason to not implement something" thats not my argument. I have never argued that something "cant" happen for X reason; on this subject. Male Viera can happen if the devs make it happen. The reason why I specifically Nitpick at Viera, is because they are essentially a guest character/race in FFXIV. Just like Ezio in Soul Caliber they can be adapted to fit into the world world/setting they are in. But just like guest characters they are usually kept intact; their character personality and lore; basically what makes them...them, remains.
Im not saying anything to the effect that they "Have" to do anything or else it "Cant" happen. Thats never been my argument.
My argument is, we should keep things consistent so that we can avoid just breaking more lore. Because at that point why bother writing lore at all?
Updating the Viera Lore to mention males coming out of hiding is not asking much, but there is resistance to this as if it will hurt Male Viera or something.....when all Im saying is the Viera lore should just be updated. Its silly and is Vague about Male Viera as is, are you saying keep it that way even though now there is Male Viera?

The White Mage issue, Thats on whoever originally wrote the WHT lore, its an issue in terms of world building I agree. But that has nothing to do with Viera, and it isnt a reason to just toss in Male Viera. As for Miqote, can somebody link me to the lore somewhere that talks about this? I keep hearing about the Male Miqote issue, but I haven't seen it in Miqote lore. Or is this old lore from 1.0 that was changed and re-written in 2.0?
Must be, because there are plenty of Male Miqote in the game as NPCs, even with voice lines.
So I dont understand this argument and why it keeps getting used.

if Matsuno gives his green light on male viera (we already have that) and if they are implemented after his imagination, with a little story explaining stuff here and there which is written by him, in all respect there is no need to develop an entire game just because of male viera. i wouldn‘t hold my breath for a new game coming in the next few years that is a mainland game set in ivalice and i don‘t think holding a popular gender of a race back because of that isn‘t the optimal solution. But those are just my two cents.

No, we aren't just making an entire Game because of Male Viera. The point is Viera come from the Ivalice setting, so if Male Viera suddenly happen, it would make more sense for them to debut in a game that takes place in Ivalice, instead of their Debut being in an MMO. Again, this seems lost on people...Im not saying Male Viera can't happen in FFXIV.
If they happen, they happen. None of us have the final say, thats on the Devs and however their process works

[Fukuro]

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WHM inconsistency is stronger in lore than adding male vieras - thats why i made that specific comparison. I also don‘t think it would damage the consistency of the lore adding the males, because i think matsuno would do a great job implementing their lore into ff14. that‘s the most important thing to me. matsuno himself appreciated the idea of male viera in ff14, going so far asking somebody to draw a little concept art of them on twitter! this is why i think its alright implementing them in ff14 before an official new title (ivalice) would be released. i just think the chances of that ever happening are pretty low. IMO the only chance we could ever see the males is through ff14 - and matsuno could do a wonderful work and he doesn‘t seem opposed to be a part of that. i also don‘t see vieras as guest characters. Their inspiration stems from the ivalice series, but they have their own fully established lore in the ff14 universe - which surprise, surprise is different (even tho similar) from the ivalice series. the guest character for me is fran - because she is basically copy pasted into ff14 lore.
For me the whm lore or some races being scarce but still playable is rather trivial. just like we can beat a fudging rathalos is rather trivial.
the devs also dont seem to be avers of the idea adding them, as yoshi p already said it‘s a thing of time and not money. if it‘s possible they are going to implement them.

Miqo‘te in general are the less seen race in lore - but just making a visit in limsa shows us there are tons and tons of adventurers, which again is kind of lore breaking.

„Comparatively few in number, Miqo'te maintain an insular mentality within their clans, tending to avoid contact with the other races. Many lead isolated lifestyles, even when living in the more populous cities.“

https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Miqo%27te

The Males are even scarcer, this is from a dev post on the official forums:

Though there are ten suffixes listed above, rarely do even the largest Keeper of the Moon families have more than two or three sons. This is not by choice. Nature merely sees to it that more females are born to this race.

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...ng-Conventions

I‘ll update the info, but think i‘ve read somewhere that in 8 females, 1 male is born? but i‘ll update the post as soon as im home and have time to do the research.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Miqo‘te in general are the less seen race in lore - but just making a visit in limsa shows us there are tons and tons of adventurers, which again is kind of lore breaking.

„Comparatively few in number, Miqo'te maintain an insular mentality within their clans, tending to avoid contact with the other races. Many lead isolated lifestyles, even when living in the more populous cities.“

https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Miqo%27te

The Males are even scarcer, this is from a dev post on the official forums:

Though there are ten suffixes listed above, rarely do even the largest Keeper of the Moon families have more than two or three sons. This is not by choice. Nature merely sees to it that more females are born to this race.

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...ng-Conventions

I‘ll update the info, but think i‘ve read somewhere that in 8 females, 1 male is born? but i‘ll update the post as soon as im home and have time to do the research.

""The Seekers are diasporized across Eorzea; a few can be found in nearly every region, bar Coerthas. Limsa Lominsa boasts a substantial Seeker population, as they are drawn to La Noscea's warm-temperate climate and abundant sunlight. Many of the Seekers who have settled in Limsa have adopted most of its social mores, and do not follow the "traditional" clan hierarchy closely, if at all.

The other notable population of Seekers is in Thanalan's Sagolii Desert. While there are, of course, Seekers in Ul'dah (including the infamous Ul'dahn "dancing girls"), a number of Seeker tribes inhabit the southern parts of Thanalan, extending into the Sagolii. These tribes, in contrast to their urbanized cousins, tend to be stridently traditional, maintaining the social structure the Seekers have lived under for millennia and with an economy focused on hunting. The most famous tribe among adventurers is the "U", or Drake, tribe whose home, Forgotten Springs, is a good stop-over point for anyone venturing out into the desert, and the village sees a good deal of traffic (to mixed feelings from the U).

Keepers are generally found in the Black Shroud. They are divided between those who have made peace with the Gridanians and integrated into their culture (and can be found making up a not-insubstantial portion of groups like the Wood Wailers), and the other clans who still resist Gridanian "domination" and have carved out their own small domains in the forest, like the Coeurlclaws. The latter tend to engage in banditry to aid their survival, forcing them into further conflict with Gridanians, who worry their behavior will incite the wrath of the Twelveswood's elementals. ""

This is actually pretty accurate, so where is the Break in Lore? And why is this a defense against Viera Lore?
Also if you read more of the lore instead of the snippets you used, its not saying that there are so few Male Miqote that they practically dont exist. Just that they are outnumbered by Female Miqote. Which is accurate, both in game, and in lore.