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    Player Goji1639's Avatar
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    I do like the idea of making Rescue a temporary invulnerability.

    It's kind of funny that people will argue against that idea with "b-b-b-but you could cheese this or that mechanic," but then when defending Rescue they list all the different ways they use it to cheese mechanics to justify it's existence. At the end of the day I think they just like using intrusive abilities to mess with people, so they argue in bad faith to keep Rescue as it is.

    That's the problem with Rescue; it attracts trolls by design. World of Warcraft noticed that problem and dealt with it, and I feel like this game would benefit from doing the same.

    Quote Originally Posted by Floortank View Post
    Virtually no downside? You want a button that turns off another player's ability that they earned, making it so that it does nothing.

    Why should anyone consider your request as anything more than comedy? It makes people wonder what horrifying Rescue-based tragedy befell you that made you into a supervillain.
    It doesn't turn off the ability, it just prevents people from using it on me. You can still Rescue everyone that actually wants your help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goji1639 View Post
    @Packetdancer

    I do like the idea of making Rescue a temporary invulnerability.

    It's kind of funny that people will argue against that idea with "b-b-b-but you could cheese this or that mechanic," but then when defending Rescue they list all the different ways they use it to cheese mechanics to justify it's existence. At the end of the day I think they just like using intrusive abilities to mess with people, so they argue in bad faith to keep Rescue as it is.

    That's the problem with Rescue; it attracts trolls by design. World of Warcraft noticed that problem and dealt with it, and I feel like this game would benefit from doing the same.


    It doesn't turn off the ability, it just prevents people from using it on me. You can still Rescue everyone that actually wants your help.

    Don't doubletalk me. If everyone turns it off, then it turns off another player's ability. It equally impinges on their Job.

    Botched Rescues are incredibly rare, but sometimes happen. So do botched Raises. Ever had a healer Raise you into a death puddle? It happens but we're not removing Raise either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Floortank View Post
    Don't doubletalk me. If everyone turns it off, then it turns off another player's ability. It equally impinges on their Job.

    Botched Rescues are incredibly rare, but sometimes happen. So do botched Raises. Ever had a healer Raise you into a death puddle? It happens but we're not removing Raise either.
    If everyone turns it off then the ability is clearly viewed as a problem by the community as a whole. So, what do you think they should do with an ability that none of their paying customers like?
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