Multiple Houses

[Catstab]

The problem with this ideal is that they never should have had the time in the first place. Its ridiculously greedy to take from other people, just so you could have that much space. Its not fair to the rest of us at all.

SE doesn't make a habit of revoking what players already spent time collecting in accordance with the game rules. While SE might restrict single accounts to 1 FC house per world in the future, it is unlikely to affect currently existing houses.

[Basch1990]

SE doesn't make a habit of revoking what players already spent time collecting in accordance with the game rules. While SE might restrict single accounts to 1 FC house per world in the future, it is unlikely to affect currently existing houses.

That is why I'm saying they need to invoke the ability for it to affect them. Why should thousands of players have to suffer because people are greedy? We already deal with the url, we shouldnt have to deal with it in game when it can be avoided. Entire wards could open up with a simple click allowing players to be able to actually own a place or free companies can finally purchase a house to gain access to airships and submarines. And condoning that behavior make people believe that its ok to do stuff like that. Especially at the cost of others. Instead of allowing it, they should change it in some way

[Basch1990]

And I meant "irl" not "url"

[Jojoya]

First, housing prices have not changed since May 2016. I have no idea where you got the 2018 from but it's not correct.

That is why I'm saying they need to invoke the ability for it to affect them. Why should thousands of players have to suffer because people are greedy? We already deal with the url, we shouldnt have to deal with it in game when it can be avoided. Entire wards could open up with a simple click allowing players to be able to actually own a place or free companies can finally purchase a house to gain access to airships and submarines. And condoning that behavior make people believe that its ok to do stuff like that. Especially at the cost of others. Instead of allowing it, they should change it in some way

Except they won't. The grandfathered houses are far less in number than you think.

Those players weren't being greedy at the time they made their purchases. There were dozens if not hundreds of unpurchased houses on most worlds, and that was still true on several worlds as recently as January 2019. Others didn't want to buy so those players did. It was only later as player population grew faster than additional houses got added that we ended up with the problem we now have.

Now the players who have made their multiple purchases since the ownership rules were changed in 2018 - yes, I'd agree they are greedy. The change to the ownership rules was clearly posted it and the intent should have been obvious - helping more players get access to houses. The players who decided to start making multiple shell FCs to get more than their fair share ignored it. But their houses also aren't grandfathered so removing the grandfather clause wouldn't affect them.

Taking away the additional houses for the multiple house owner is still not going to solve the problem, or even make things better to a noticeable degree. There simply aren't even close to enough houses in the game. We've got an estimated active player population of 1.2 million. There are less 400,000 houses in the game. Take away all houses from FCs, take away all multiple houses so players are limited to one house per account regardless of how many different worlds there are. That still leaves 800,000 players without the ability get a house.

We need real solutions to the supply problem. Your suggestion won't accomplish anything, least of all get you a house.

[Catstab]

SE doesn't make a habit of revoking what players already spent time collecting in accordance with the game rules.

they need to invoke the ability for it to affect them... Entire wards could open up with a simple click

SE would consider taking away earned rewards as unethical and won't consider doing it. They would also consider it anti-fun, which would work against their business model. Less fun = less players = less money.

[Kleeya]

And even if what you ask did become reality, what are you gonna ask for next when nothing would have been solved, because the main problem (houses being in limited supply) will still be here ? For every house without any exception to be erased every month so that everyone can regularly have a go at it ?

The only solution for everyone to get a house is instanced housing. Everything else is only band-aids on a wooden leg.

[Basch1990]

And even if what you ask did become reality, what are you gonna ask for next when nothing would have been solved, because the main problem (houses being in limited supply) will still be here ? For every house without any exception to be erased every month so that everyone can regularly have a go at it ?

The only solution for everyone to get a house is instanced housing. Everything else is only band-aids on a wooden leg.

Only other thing I would ask for is faster reaction to botting. Can't tell you how many times I reported a bot and it's still active to this day.

[Basch1990]

SE would consider taking away earned rewards as unethical and won't consider doing it. They would also consider it anti-fun, which would work against their business model. Less fun = less players = less money.

If they wanted more fun they wouldn't have destroyed the abilities every expansion.

[LaylaTsarra]

If they wanted more fun they wouldn't have destroyed the abilities every expansion.

Not sure what you mean by destroying abilities. If you're talking job skills well that's inevitable given they are adding new ones and some older ones have to go because of skill bloat.

Relative to housing they need to fix the FC purchasing loophole so alts can't buy/lead more than one FC per account per server. If people are willing to purchase multiple subscriptions for characters well I don't think there is anything they can do about that in particular given those are for the most part totally different accounts. Furthermore they aren't going to do away with grandfathered private homes and I would say that's a pretty safe bet. How they deal with fixing the FC purchasing and ownership is another issue and that remains to be seen. One can hope they plug the loophole before the release of Ishgard housing.

The intent is one FC and one private house per account per server and that currently isn't working. I own both a FC and a private on Spiggan for example and even though I have alts there I have no interest in trying to bypass that intent and purchase addition FC housing.

[Basch1990]

Not sure what you mean by destroying abilities. If you're talking job skills well that's inevitable given they are adding new ones and some older ones have to go because of skill bloat.

Relative to housing they need to fix the FC purchasing loophole so alts can't buy/lead more than one FC per account per server. If people are willing to purchase multiple subscriptions for characters well I don't think there is anything they can do about that in particular given those are for the most part totally different accounts. Furthermore they aren't going to do away with grandfathered private homes and I would say that's a pretty safe bet. How they deal with fixing the FC purchasing and ownership is another issue and that remains to be seen. One can hope they plug the loophole before the release of Ishgard housing.

The intent is one FC and one private house per account per server and that currently isn't working. I own both a FC and a private on Spiggan for example and even though I have alts there I have no interest in trying to bypass that intent and purchase addition FC housing.

See this is what I have been saying. But I'm also saying that SE NEEDS to do away with the grandfathered houses. It just gives re to more people trying to do it by other means. Especially when there is a whole ward of 1 FC owning all the houses