Multiple Houses

[Basch1990]

No matter what. Extra garden patches, workshops, etc is still a type of storage. It's greedy af. And no. They wouldnt have to demo everything and make people repurchase. The demo ability is already active in there system. Means they just have to use it. Its not rocket science, dude. And alt houses shouldn't be allowed on the same world. That would be an easy fix as well. Instead of locking 1 to a char, lock 1 to a world. Its massively greedy. And sure. Maybe my number is off on the multi housing. But if I am wrong it's because my number is too small. Its all ridiculous and make things harder for other FC's and people.

[Catstab]

And even so, SE doesn't have to input a massive code to demo. It's easy enough to send a message and make them choose then auto demo the rest.

From a friend:
I can see the official emails from SE:
Dear subscriber, please pick one house, the rest are history. Sincerely, SE.

Ps that's what you get for being greedy.

You're looking at two different types of housing. There are personal houses for alts, which can no longer be purchased since 2018. SE already decided to grandfather these, and is unlikely to reverse the decision. There are also alt-FCs, which any account can currently acquire 8 total of. SE has hesitated to disallow acquiring additional FCs, in the event they do, I doubt they will remove FCs or FC housing that already exists and is being actively used.

In the almost 8 years since launch, they upped housing twice. And with barely any actual add ons.

When housing was first launched it was 5 wards (no sub-wards) in 3 zones. That means 450 houses total. Now we have 5,760. In the past 2 years alone, housing expanded from 3 zones to 4, and from 12 wards to 24.

[Basch1990]

Actually, this is how I would see the letter:

Dear [enter player name],
Unfortunately due to the limited amount of housing, we have to ask you to relinquish and extra plots you have. We will compensate you the amount you paid in full and ask that you choose a plot to keep. We are deeply sorry for any inconvenience this may cause.

Sincerely,
[Enter Dev Name]

Sounds more professional and actually helps the problem. And they can still take them and change their stance as they see fit. Instead of having to work around the people who bought up all the houses, just take them back first allowing for other players to fill the wards. And T bh I think you underestimate the greed cause I'm also positive people bought multiple games and took over extra plots as well making that 8 go even higher. But take the extra's away and then you put on a world limit and there you go. Saves a lot of problems and helps others to be able to purchase a house. And I started at launch but took a break before the release of the housing. But I came back 2 weeks after its release. Subdivision has always existed but yes there were only 5 wards. Then upped to 12, then 18, then to 21 then current. So I'm off by 2. Either way, the amount of houses purchased by either dead FC's, never been FC's and alts is ridiculous and should be addressed. SE is just allowing it to continue because they dont want backlash from those who are doing it. But they need to grow a pair, and just do it.

[Basch1990]

ait.and before anybody says anything about how much they paid in items, housing prices dropped substantially since 2018 so getting paid in full would allow them enough to by another house and get items back that they lost. But they wouldnt be able to because they have a limitation on how many they can buy.

[Caitlinzulu]

. But I came back 2 weeks after its release. Subdivision has always existed but yes there were only 5 wards.

Well just did a search and subdivisions got introduced in patch 2.4
just have a quick search for patchnotes .

And no taking houses away is not reasonable, compensation in full for a house is impossible. How do you put a value on time spent on the house? Put a value on decorating items that can no longer be used since not enough space to place.
Taking housing away from people that have legally bought them is a bad move no matter how you look at it and it would create bad publicity

[Basch1990]

That means 450 houses total.

Another thing.... Your math is wrong. If subdivisions didn't exist and there were 5 wards then there would only be 150 plots due to there only being 30 plots per ward. But with subs, it comes out to 300. 5×30=150, 5×60=300. :/ so subdivisions existing since launch is the only way for the number to be anywhere near your projection.

[Caitlinzulu]

Another thing.... Your math is wrong. If subdivisions didn't exist and there were 5 wards then there would only be 150 plots due to there only being 30 plots per ward. But with subs, it comes out to 300. 5×30=150, 5×60=300. :/ so subdivisions existing since launch is the only way for the number to be anywhere near your projection.

5 wards with 30 plots each is 150 plots per district
3 districts (lavender beds, mist and goblet) means 3 times 150 or total of 450 houses per server

now we got 24 wards with 60 houses each in each district which makes 1 440 houses in each district
We got 4 districts now (shirogane got added to the 3 we had) that makes 4 times 1 440 or 5 760 houses

an increase in housing by a factor of 12.8

[Catstab]

Your math is wrong. If subdivisions didn't exist and there were 5 wards then there would only be 150 plots due to there only being 30 plots per ward. But with subs, it comes out to 300. 5×30=150, 5×60=300. :/ so subdivisions existing since launch is the only way for the number to be anywhere near your projection.

I wasn't going to bicker back and forth about subdivisions. I said once they didn't exist at launch. A simple google search shows that.

Yes, 150 houses per zone. So after you factor in Goblet, Lavender Beds, and Mist, 5 wards of 30 houses in each of 3 zones make 450 total.

We have more than 12 times as much housing currently than we had at launch, and its certainly suggested more could be coming soon. Ishgard should be released in the next 4-10 months, and more ward expansions seem likely to occur before then. The last ward expansions each added 720 houses. A large ward expansion is 1440 houses. Either of these is more beneficial than demolishing existing houses.

[Basch1990]

5 wards with 30 plots each is 150 plots per district
3 districts (lavender beds, mist and goblet) means 3 times 150 or total of 450 houses per server

now we got 24 wards with 60 houses each in each district which makes 1 440 houses in each district
We got 4 districts now (shirogane got added to the 3 we had) that makes 4 times 1 440 or 5 760 houses

an increase in housing by a factor of 12.8

Ah. You're right. Had a math fart there

[Basch1990]

Well just did a search and subdivisions got introduced in patch 2.4
just have a quick search for patchnotes .

And no taking houses away is not reasonable, compensation in full for a house is impossible. How do you put a value on time spent on the house? Put a value on decorating items that can no longer be used since not enough space to place.
Taking housing away from people that have legally bought them is a bad move no matter how you look at it and it would create bad publicity

The problem with this ideal is that they never should have had the time in the first place. Its ridiculously greedy to take from other people, just so you could have that much space. Its not fair to the rest of us at all. And with the going rates for houses right now, giving a full refund is more then generous