Multiple Houses

[Basch1990]

EDIT: OP says the above example 'is dumb.' Here's the actual conversation:

(This company should take away people's earned rewards, so they can be distributed to different people)

(That goes against their standards of ethics, they would never do it)

(Well, they make expansion packs!)

I'm calling out this changing the subject to Paladin tank stances in the middle of a discussion of business ethics as a way for OP to distract from a debate they don't have anything left to contribute to.

Way to skip out the post where somebody asked me to clarify, dude. Way to try and manipulate posts to work in your favor XD sorry dude but till you are ready to actually read everything and stop making stupid grasps at things that literally doesn't make sense, I'll let you do you. Lmk when you are ready, bruh

[Catstab]

Way to skip out the post where somebody asked me to clarify, dude.

Someone asked you to clarify because what you said made no sense. Your response to "SE will never take away houses, it goes against their ethics" was "they took my tank stance!"

Good thing my scenarios aren't impossible.

They are, though. Let's dive back into your so-called 'hypothetical situation.'

So if 120 houses are owned by 5 people on a server

8 personals + 8 FCs x 5 accounts = 80 houses, absolute maximum. So your hypothetical scenario is what if people exist who have 12 characters per account? That's not possible, so you can stop worrying.

Please try to stick to the conversation we're having and avoid being insulting or combative. Or just stop posting. This is a dead thread.

[Jojoya]

Please try to stick to the conversation we're having and avoid being insulting or combative. Or just stop posting. This is a dead thread.

Appreciate your efforts Catstab but there's use arguing with her. She's firmly stuck in what she believes and incapable of listening to reason.

She's also got the same right to post here as any of us. Best to ignore her if you find her arguments more irritating than entertaining.

[Basch1990]

No, you didn't. Take a peek.

By the way, hypothetical scenarios that are impossible are called 'hyperbole' and have no place in arguments.

They've already decided to let them keep them. You don't like it? Well, you quitting won't bankrupt the company. Obviously it's best for them if you continue to play, which you appear to be doing.

Please read this one again, and move on.

Now max case scenario FC's buy every house. Maximum amount to benefit would be 23,000 people per server. Minimum of 115. And only people who would suffer is 5 people. Now I get it that not every house will be owned by an FC but WAY more people will benefit from the few who lose. Them are the numbers and it's hard to argue with it. 200 people max having access to say 200 plots? Thats a lot of wasted potential especially since most of those FC's probably only have 1 active member.

I didn't? Read this again. Proof you aren't reading anything. Just skimming. Later, bruh.

[Basch1990]

By the way, hypothetical scenarios that are impossible are called 'hyperbole' and have no place in arguments.

Good thing my scenarios aren't impossible. With how thing were, plenty of people. Had the potential especially since FC's bought entire wards. All they had to do was buy 2 full wards to get 120. Makes it absolutely possible. Sorry dude.

[Basch1990]

Someone asked you to clarify because what you said made no sense. Your response to "SE will never take away houses, it goes against their ethics" was "they took my tank stance!"



They are, though. Let's dive back into your so-called 'hypothetical situation.'



8 personals + 8 FCs x 5 accounts = 80 houses, absolute maximum. So your hypothetical scenario is what if people exist who have 12 characters per account? That's not possible, so you can stop worrying.

Please try to stick to the conversation we're having and avoid being insulting or combative. Or just stop posting. This is a dead thread.

And here you go talking about current. Wonderful. When this entire post is not about the 8 MAXIMUM that you can get RIGHT NOW. But hey. You do you, bruh

[worldofneil]

And here you go talking about current. Wonderful. When this entire post is not about the 8 MAXIMUM that you can get RIGHT NOW. But hey. You do you, bruh

I've had my account since 2010 (1.0) and it has never been possible to have more than 8 characters on a world on a single service account.

So the most houses you could ever get on an world on a single service account was 16 (8 personal, 8 FC).

The most houses you can get right now on a single service account is 9 (1 personal, 8 FC).

I have no idea where you are getting your figures from, but you should probably check your facts before going on a crusade.

[Catstab]

8 personals + 8 FCs x 5 accounts = 80 houses, absolute maximum.

And here you go talking about current. Wonderful. When this entire post is not about the 8 MAXIMUM that you can get RIGHT NOW.

So, the 16 houses described in my post are the highest maximum ever possible. Not the maximum current. Not sure why you'd think 8 personals is the current rule? But as you say: 'you do you'

Past rules were 8 personal houses per account and 8 FCs per account = 16 houses per account.

Current rules are 1 personal and 8 FCs per account = 9 houses per account.

In 2017 and before then, 5 accounts could collect 80 houses total if they tried (and these houses would still exist today.) Currently, 5 accounts can only collect 45 houses. Your hyperbolic situation where 5 accounts had 120 houses is not possible and never has been.

Disappointed that there's nothing here after two days other than this opportunity to help you develop your reading comprehension.

[Basch1990]

Appreciate your efforts Catstab but there's use arguing with her. She's firmly stuck in what she believes and incapable of listening to reason.

She's also got the same right to post here as any of us. Best to ignore her if you find her arguments more irritating than entertaining.

You are right. I have a right to post here and nobody has given me any concrete reasoning why my idea shouldn't happen on top of adding new houses. Plus it seems I'm the ONLY one reading entire posts and not just part of it

[Sauteed]

I probably do not deserve a response but I'll go back to my original post in this thread and say taking grandfathered houses away is not the answer but veering away from the ward system itself for future house districts would be.. and I mean something akin to apartments but vastly improved upon. Allowing tenants for starters and also allowing alts to share housing would be a good start. Then perhaps increased sized and item allowances. These new "super apartments" should also be subject to the 45 day timer ward houses are as well, and you may not have a normal house in a ward and one of these styles of apartments. You can have a regular apartment alongside one of them tho. That is my suggestion.


Taking away grandfathered houses does not help fix the problem. There will probably never be enough ward housing until this game dies out some time in the future which may be sooner than some expect with new mmos around the corner that look to be taking notes from current mmo failings. Making a few new worlds on a data center might help considerably and making them where no houses are grandfathered in from the onset. Make them not able to be world visited for the first month they are introduced imo. Allow transfers maybe after 1 week. That will probably be the best thing we could see for people genuinely wanting a straight shot at a house outside of the dev's just giving every player a house straight up for free of any size and style the player wants. Anyhow I do hope a good solution arrives at some point like most others do but it's not a perfect world and this is not a perfect game. So the perfect solution is madness to expect.