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  1. #31
    Player deadman1204's Avatar
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    Fransisco Acutus
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    Ultros
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Hycinthus View Post
    Thanks. Any order for the other DPS? Let’s say all 4 DPS are dead. Any priority to any job?
    If there have been alot of deaths, the one that doesn't die as often
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  2. #32
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    Maeka's Avatar
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    Maeka Blazewing
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 90
    Not sure why this is a question.... but obviously....

    Healer>RDM (Lv68+)>SMN>Off-tank>Other DPS.

    RDMs get Verraise at 68, so you want to keep the RDMs up if possible, and SMN is the only other DPS who has a Raise, so if you have no RDM, or you're in Pre-68 content, you want to keep them up as well if both healers are already up. I have seen, many times, wipes being saved by SMNs and RDMs when both healers are down at some point during the fight.

    I've also seen wipes happen that could have been saved if a RDM or a SMN woulda been raised instead of some random DPS. I have literally seen a group with 1 RDM in, and that RDM was the very last to get a Raise during Lv80 content (IIRC, it was an Eden fight) and I'm sitting there just staring at the screen going ".....why?" especially when you see healers hard-casting raise to get 2, 3 DPS back off the floor and they raise the RDM last... um..... ok? Not sure why people wanna do that.
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    Last edited by Maeka; 09-15-2020 at 09:38 AM.

  3. #33
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    Jirah's Avatar
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    Jira Dal'riata
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    Ultros
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 100
    in 4 man tanks always then resers like RDM/SMN first, second support like BRD/DNC, third NIN/MNK lastly SAM/BLM with MCH being the lowest on my priority list for very petty reasons

    in 8 man clearly other healers first and tanks it varies
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    “Theirs really not much you can change with the MCH”
    -Live letter 66, 9/17/21

    Where is the ambition?

  4. #34
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    Ilenya's Avatar
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    Aurora Vlondett
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 100
    You know, thinking about this, with the TP changes...

    SE made it so that the jobs that have raises have the hardest time getting back up to speed after death due to MP costs. The only MP using job without a Raise (BLM, obviously) has an easy way to refill MP, and every other job, while still needing to start back up their rotations, are no longer bound by TP to get started again.

    I wonder if that was on purpose.
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  5. #35
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    glamazon's Avatar
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    Glamazon Amazonia
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    Mateus
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    Astrologian Lv 98
    When I play healer I always raise healers first then tanks then red mages then everyone else
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  6. #36
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    Allegor's Avatar
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    Red Rider
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Mhaeric View Post
    Yup. You'd have to be pretty incompetent as a RDM or SMN, however, for me to leave you on the floor over a non-raising DPS. I've definitely been there, done that sadly.
    TFW you raise a RDM only for them to start dpsing instead of help raising the rest of the party and then proceed to die a few seconds later anyways

    Quote Originally Posted by Mhaeric View Post
    It takes several GCD before a RDM has enough mp to be able to raise, FYI.
    Well yeah, it's not like I expected them to pop Thin Air or anything, but one can normally spot the difference between a player that's at least trying to staying alive ....and one that's going YOLO
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    Last edited by Allegor; 09-20-2020 at 12:38 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    Can't increase healing requirements because "it'd stress the newbies"
    Can't increase dps options either because "it'd stress the newbies"
    so apparently the only option that doesn't "stress the newbies" is either pressing 1211111111, or do nothing at all.

  7. #37
    Player Mhaeric's Avatar
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    Mhaeric Llystrom
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 97
    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    TFW you raise a RDM only for them to start dpsing instead of help raising the rest of the party and then proceed to die a few seconds later anyways
    It takes several GCD before a RDM has enough mp to be able to raise, FYI.
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