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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistaer_Bestia View Post
    While an FC does not NEED a house per se, in order to be competitive an FC estate is needed in most cases. in a situation where available PLOTS are scarce, allowing individuals players to buy those plots while multiple FCs are vying for a plot really seems to be shooting FCs in the foot. also the random timer? yeah it deters selling but it also makes it so someone who has been waiting for hours for a plot can have it snaked by someone who just showed up at the exact right time. How about a moratorium on individual players buying plots on high pop servers?
    When plots were added in 5.1 and only FCs were allowed to purchase for 3 months, the new wards remained half empty on most world until the private purchase moratorium was lifted. During that time, most of the occupied plots were occupied by private owners who had relocated. Many of the FCs that did buy are the shell FCs that players use to get around purchase restrictions.

    The simple truth is there is not enough demand for houses from FCs to warrant another private purchase moratorium. If a FC wanted a house, they should have bought it back in 5.1 when there was no competition. They declined, they missed their chance. Now they can compete against everyone else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenky View Post
    When FCs get given an advantage, it's ignored or unaccepted. Then when they lose said advantage, they whine because they don't have it. Despite not using it when they had it in the first place. Not all FCs are like this, mind. But a vocal enough amount of them giving the general assumption that it's a waste to offer it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    The simple truth is there is not enough demand for houses from FCs to warrant another private purchase moratorium. If a FC wanted a house, they should have bought it back in 5.1 when there was no competition. They declined, they missed their chance. Now they can compete against everyone else.
    To be fair to OP their fc was formed this year, so clearly they didn't get the chance to get a fc plot when previous wards were released. However it is true that on many servers wards were far from full during the period in which only fcs could buy plots. Certainly if the situation on Chaos was quite like most servers I can understand why SE have decided to allow private owners to purchase on the launch day of the new wards this time.
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    Have you TRIED to buy a plot recently? or are you just basing this on the situation from almost a year ago?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistaer_Bestia View Post
    Have you TRIED to buy a plot recently? or are you just basing this on the situation from almost a year ago?
    We know what it's been like recently. It's the same situation we had prior to the data center reorganization and during all of 5.0. This might be your first rodeo but most of us have been through it before.

    It may not seem like 720 new plots is a large number compared to demand but on a relatively low population world (at least for NA) like Zalera, that's quite a bit. They're not all going to disappear the moment the servers come online, and you'll find many plots becoming available in the existing wards as current owners relocate to a preferred plot in the new wards.

    Your FC has an advantage as you can use your members to spread out into multiple wards to get a good house while the individual player has to do all the running around on their own. Make use of that advantage. If you're paranoid, go straight to the cheapest house in Goblet and buy it. Then you can relocate to any available preferred plot, including the existing wards that will have a lot of vacancies as current owners relocate but can't get snatched up by new buyers because the purchase timers will be in effect there.

    Here's a link to maps of each housing district with plots color coded by grade. Grade 5 is always the cheapest. You can check the Housing guide on Lodestone to get the exact prices.
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post4590114
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    At least you're trying to be helpful. I fo appreciate that. To be fair tho, "it is how it is and that's how it's always been." Is not how problems get solved. Also I'm still confused how a low pop server like mine has such a tight market. Personally the non instanced homes is a terrible idea and should be done away with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistaer_Bestia View Post
    At least you're trying to be helpful. I fo appreciate that. To be fair tho, "it is how it is and that's how it's always been." Is not how problems get solved. Also I'm still confused how a low pop server like mine has such a tight market. Personally the non instanced homes is a terrible idea and should be done away with.
    Auto demolish isnt enabled still for some reason so everyone that ever bought a house since February and haven't logged on since then negates Auto demolish where your plot is up for sale if Ur offline for 30 days. I find it stupid do they really expect this to persist? this isnt a natural disaster. pandemics last for years even decades its ridiculous to halt the housing economy until then ? FF16 will be announced before auto demolish kicks in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jirah View Post
    Auto demolish isnt enabled still for some reason
    People are dying, Karen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistaer_Bestia View Post
    At least you're trying to be helpful. I fo appreciate that. To be fair tho, "it is how it is and that's how it's always been." Is not how problems get solved. Also I'm still confused how a low pop server like mine has such a tight market. Personally the non instanced homes is a terrible idea and should be done away with.
    Most of us are going to agree with you that there's a lot of room for improvement in housing.

    But for now, we're stuck with the system as is. We have to learn to make the best use of what's available at the same time we continue to ask SE to make changes for the better.

    As for the tight market, the problem is the game doesn't give us enough things to spend gil on. Housing is the only major purchase. Just about everything else is passing gil around from player to player via the marketboard.

    People like to spend the extra money they have. If you're sitting on 50 million gil and have nothing else to spend it on, might as well buy a house even if you don't really care about having one. It wouldn't be a problem if the game could guarantee a house to every player. Because it's a limited resource, it ends up a problem.
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