Nope you didn't add enough plots SE...

[Alistaer_Bestia]

I'm not at all upset. I'm just using sarcasm to point out the fallacy in your argument. " we've a food shortage" "well we had loads of food a year ago that went uneaten for months, you whiner"

[Burmecia]

Several times, when New plots have opened up and SE giving FCs almost exclusive rights to those plots for the first few weeks, they were barely touched if not left abandoned all-together. Then they were all eaten up once Personal House owners had the ability to purchase the plots.

[Jojoya]

While an FC does not NEED a house per se, in order to be competitive an FC estate is needed in most cases. in a situation where available PLOTS are scarce, allowing individuals players to buy those plots while multiple FCs are vying for a plot really seems to be shooting FCs in the foot. also the random timer? yeah it deters selling but it also makes it so someone who has been waiting for hours for a plot can have it snaked by someone who just showed up at the exact right time. How about a moratorium on individual players buying plots on high pop servers?

When plots were added in 5.1 and only FCs were allowed to purchase for 3 months, the new wards remained half empty on most world until the private purchase moratorium was lifted. During that time, most of the occupied plots were occupied by private owners who had relocated. Many of the FCs that did buy are the shell FCs that players use to get around purchase restrictions.

The simple truth is there is not enough demand for houses from FCs to warrant another private purchase moratorium. If a FC wanted a house, they should have bought it back in 5.1 when there was no competition. They declined, they missed their chance. Now they can compete against everyone else.

[Penthea]

When FCs get given an advantage, it's ignored or unaccepted. Then when they lose said advantage, they whine because they don't have it. Despite not using it when they had it in the first place. Not all FCs are like this, mind. But a vocal enough amount of them giving the general assumption that it's a waste to offer it.

The simple truth is there is not enough demand for houses from FCs to warrant another private purchase moratorium. If a FC wanted a house, they should have bought it back in 5.1 when there was no competition. They declined, they missed their chance. Now they can compete against everyone else.

To be fair to OP their fc was formed this year, so clearly they didn't get the chance to get a fc plot when previous wards were released. However it is true that on many servers wards were far from full during the period in which only fcs could buy plots. Certainly if the situation on Chaos was quite like most servers I can understand why SE have decided to allow private owners to purchase on the launch day of the new wards this time.

[Alistaer_Bestia]

Have you TRIED to buy a plot recently? or are you just basing this on the situation from almost a year ago?

[Jojoya]

Have you TRIED to buy a plot recently? or are you just basing this on the situation from almost a year ago?

We know what it's been like recently. It's the same situation we had prior to the data center reorganization and during all of 5.0. This might be your first rodeo but most of us have been through it before.

It may not seem like 720 new plots is a large number compared to demand but on a relatively low population world (at least for NA) like Zalera, that's quite a bit. They're not all going to disappear the moment the servers come online, and you'll find many plots becoming available in the existing wards as current owners relocate to a preferred plot in the new wards.

Your FC has an advantage as you can use your members to spread out into multiple wards to get a good house while the individual player has to do all the running around on their own. Make use of that advantage. If you're paranoid, go straight to the cheapest house in Goblet and buy it. Then you can relocate to any available preferred plot, including the existing wards that will have a lot of vacancies as current owners relocate but can't get snatched up by new buyers because the purchase timers will be in effect there.

Here's a link to maps of each housing district with plots color coded by grade. Grade 5 is always the cheapest. You can check the Housing guide on Lodestone to get the exact prices.
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post4590114

[Alistaer_Bestia]

At least you're trying to be helpful. I fo appreciate that. To be fair tho, "it is how it is and that's how it's always been." Is not how problems get solved. Also I'm still confused how a low pop server like mine has such a tight market. Personally the non instanced homes is a terrible idea and should be done away with.

[Jirah]

ignoring the amount of fraudulent FCs made seconds after buying a 2nd, 3rd home which is so apparent you can search through the plots and see hundreds of plots owned by barley alive FC or FCs that only have 0/1 members and funny enough are neighbors with the same person which is more common than I thought.

I wouldve gone with Fcs at a certain age and i do agree the housing purchase method is still bad, but FC having this privilege is worse

[TwistedTea]

ignoring the amount of fraudulent FCs made seconds after buying a 2nd, 3rd home which is so apparent you can search through the plots and see hundreds of plots owned by barley alive FC or FCs that only have 0/1 members and funny enough are neighbors with the same person which is more common than I thought.

Still spouting the same BS when Lodestone data shows personals own ~70% of the housing on NA servers.

FCs own ~30% of the housing. Out of that ~30%, ~6% are owned by FCs with fewer than 4 members.

But keep going on about how FCs are the main reason for the housing shortage.

[ElciaDeiLinus]

ignoring the amount of fraudulent FCs made seconds after buying a 2nd, 3rd home which is so apparent you can search through the plots and see hundreds of plots owned by barley alive FC or FCs that only have 0/1 members and funny enough are neighbors with the same person which is more common than I thought.

I wouldve gone with Fcs at a certain age and i do agree the housing purchase method is still bad, but FC having this privilege is worse

There's a requirement to own a house/apartment as an individual, if they required FC to have a certain level (most games have the ability to level up a guild for the members) it'd basically prevent players from making a shell FC with no effort in it, at the very least would force them to do content meant to be done by a dozen + players if they want a house by themselves.

The housing system is bad enough as is, but SE letting a large chunk of an already limited system to be controlled by scalpers, gil sellers, shell FCs and players who will never use the house is a disgrace.