Summoner: An action or a dot?

[HeulGDarian]

Summoner does not summon just anything. They summon grand creatures to perform grand feats. ARR summoner in effect puny elementals, and maybe once in a blue moon with enkindle you'd get a sort of neat effect.


ARR SMN was akin to FFXI SMN if all FFXI's SMN was summon elemental spirits. Which would have been pretty bad. Clearly FFXI didn't feel like a summoner just because it summoner elementals. It was because it summoner these awesome creatures.


You will never change my mind to make summoner as simple and paltry as summoning chibi makes you on par with any other summoners of the series.


So yes we do and always will have to go through this. I will always appose you on that idea. Unless the whole game is chibi themed, but to change Summoner from what is in effect the most fancy and grandiose job in the entire franchise into a fast food chibi caller with some dots. Never going to be on that same page with you.


It is a subversion to change a core concept, if you compare every single SMN to each other and the jobs (or characters and spells in jobless FF)- FFXIV stands out as being different. They made some reasons for it, like Yoshida wanting to respect the primals by making them world bosses you could call out as a FC but at the cost of changing summoners vibes.


If you give dark knight only the most bland and boring black magic sure it's still dark knight, but it's kind of lame. Especially if all the other dark knights didn't have that issue. So in this case summoner never had a meager appearance until FFXIV ARR. Ever. They have of course worked to change that, demi(s) and trances includes.

That can just be fixed by simply changing how they look, and giving them more things to do. You can call it lame till they do something like that but you cant call it a subversion, Like i said before you may say summoner is meant to have big scary looking summons, i wont disagree with you, but i will say summoner should have options and variety first something that it does have to an extent and that id love to see expanded.