Why is PVP not fun?

[Waaltar]

You cant curbstomp, gank or seal club people. No progression to be better than anyone else.

It's funny that you say that but I hope you're not serious because this is what ruined most MMO pvp communities for over a decade. The people who actually liked that stuff were extremely vocal and could claim companies were just catering to the players who liked PvP the most and played it the most.

It took years and stuff like gamergate before the industry was willing to confront toxicity and the ways it hurt the bottom line, and tiny pvp communities that were gankers paradises were just so obviously one of them. The whole MMO pvp genre has only just begun to recover from years of catering to the wrong players.

There are thousands and thousands of FFXIV players who will never ever even try PVP no matter what cool rewards they come up with because of that era.

[Gula]

It's funny that you say that but I hope you're not serious because this is what ruined most MMO pvp communities for over a decade. The people who actually liked that stuff were extremely vocal and could claim companies were just catering to the players who liked PvP the most and played it the most.

It took years and stuff like gamergate before the industry was willing to confront toxicity and the ways it hurt the bottom line, and tiny pvp communities that were gankers paradises were just so obviously one of them. The whole MMO pvp genre has only just begun to recover from years of catering to the wrong players.

There are thousands and thousands of FFXIV players who will never ever even try PVP no matter what cool rewards they come up with because of that era.

Games still do it, therefore it still works. After seeing the utter disappointment that was SINoAlice which let you pay to just be better, it's simple- offering a means to be better is what works.