Everything wrong with 5.3 AST sleeve draw [Translated JP duplicate thread]

[Liam_Harper]

Came across a few comments from a sprout on Novice Network regarding AST:

-"uuh I just realised.. all AST guides say stuff about cards giving a damage taken-decrease, MP-cost-decrease, etc... yet all my cards show 3/6% damage buff?"
-"..its just 3/6% damage now?"
-"immediatly sacking this class. wtf"
-"how is 6 cards having the same 2 effects amazing?"

If even the new players think it's boring, who exactly are you making the class for?

[Kabooa]

Came across a few comments from a sprout on Novice Network regarding AST:

-"uuh I just realised.. all AST guides say stuff about cards giving a damage taken-decrease, MP-cost-decrease, etc... yet all my cards show 3/6% damage buff?"
-"..its just 3/6% damage now?"
-"immediatly sacking this class. wtf"
-"how is 6 cards having the same 2 effects amazing?"

If even the new players think it's boring, who exactly are you making the class for?

"This small anecdotal sample size represents everyone in a broad general category of new player."

[Kleeya]

Came across a few comments from a sprout on Novice Network regarding AST:

-"uuh I just realised.. all AST guides say stuff about cards giving a damage taken-decrease, MP-cost-decrease, etc... yet all my cards show 3/6% damage buff?"
-"..its just 3/6% damage now?"
-"immediatly sacking this class. wtf"
-"how is 6 cards having the same 2 effects amazing?"

If even the new players think it's boring, who exactly are you making the class for?

They are new players, and as such still don't know that more dps is all that matters. With more experience they will come to understand that having defence bole cards was worthless if you could launch a more damage balance instead.

[Liam_Harper]

"This small anecdotal sample size represents everyone in a broad general category of new player."

Fair comment and I don't mean to claim it does. Just thought I'd share, feel free to disagree, it's not my own personal feedback anyway.

They are new players, and as such still don't know that more dps is all that matters. With more experience they will come to understand that having defence bole cards was worthless if you could launch a more damage balance instead.

I think the point was more they knew dps matters but didn't find that as fun. Which is, of course a wider problem than just AST and more the dps-centric design of the game and I don't think "revert back to old AST" is the answer there, but it does seem people like having some non-dps utility. Not sure how you'd mix that in though.

[HeulGDarian]

I think the point was more they knew dps matters but didn't find that as fun. Which is, of course a wider problem than just AST and more the dps-centric design of the game and I don't think "revert back to old AST" is the answer there, but it does seem people like having some non-dps utility. Not sure how you'd mix that in though.

Man i wasnt an astro main in any sense of the word, but like most people it came the time where i had to level it. had some fun times with the cards some not so fun times with people deliberately overwriting my cards even after w8ing for them to cast theirs for a really long time but from what i played my most favourite card wasnt balance, it was actually Bole. It felt so good giving a free rampart to the tank and yes sure dps is king yada yada but i thought the whole point of astro was to make the best out of what you got , it fit the jobs identity like a glove.
Add to that the timey wimey spells which boi was it cool to just put a massive regen on the tank and see him be undefeatable, now all it has is gravity and its completely odd for it to exist in there.
At any rate this just my piece on this matter.

[MPNZ]

I think the point was more they knew dps matters but didn't find that as fun. Which is, of course a wider problem than just AST and more the dps-centric design of the game and I don't think "revert back to old AST" is the answer there, but it does seem people like having some non-dps utility. Not sure how you'd mix that in though.

Ok, just going to plug one of my ideas again: Return the cards to having unique effects (mostly back to 4.0), but making divination a constant fluctuating DPS buff based on seals & repeated singular card use with a growth/degeneration system that would make balance fishing a short term burst damage at the cost of becoming a debuff if it's overused, with some mitigation abilities for RNG and general QoL. The risk/reward might be more interesting, and if it ends up being like way to powerful again: hopefully they'll just decide to improve the other healers instead of just repeating 5.0 again

They are new players, and as such still don't know that more dps is all that matters. With more experience they will come to understand that having defence bole cards was worthless if you could launch a more damage balance instead.

This is only partially true, and it's mostly just fors peed running and the higher difficulty raids and trails outside of progression. But, totally ignores pug content, and progression across the board. Extremely undergeared party members, broken equipment, DPS-only healers, player unfamiliarity with the content, and eating every aoe are still very common in PUGs, which regularlyplaced situational cards above balance. Being hyper focused to just one particular set of content or school thought probably wont sit well for players outside of those circles