Thread: Everything wrong with 5.3 AST sleeve draw [Translated JP duplicate thread]

In general, every job post HW continually suffers from the simplification/elimination of many fun optimizable complexities. It is of course reasonable and understandable that you want the gap between top gamers and casual players to not be grossly wide (as Yoshi P once mentioned live), but I feel the means you employ are not serving this purpose well.

Making less than mid-scale adjustments to oGCDs and job mechanics may narrow the gap between top and second-tier gamers, but will impact volume zone players with far less magnitude in both positive and negative directions, because as a fact many casual players do not use oGCDs on cooldown (if at all) in the first place.

For the purpose of closing gaps between casual and top players, it seems more reasonable and effective to increase the portion of damage dealt by Autos and basic GCD skills instead of simplifying/removing oGCD or mechanic complexities. While at least most users can deal Auto (and usually basic GCD) damages given they are alive, simplifying and removing job complexities will hurt the optimization experience AND not materially affect causal players.

[2. This implementation is flawed as a QoL improvement in the first place]

Yes, it is true that with new Sleeve it is now easier to use 6% divination on opener. That's it.

The cooldowns of Divination and Sleeve Draw are 120s and 180s respectively, so for 1 in 2 Divinations it is physically impossible to utilize Sleeve’s new search effect, and we are simply required to obtain Seals with less cards. In fact, we are now forced as a result to spam Redraw with cards we were previously able to play, and have far less options regarding Minor Arcana. We also now need to wait prepull for Draw recast in order to use Divination for opener, which feels bad in PF context.

While this was presumably a QoL change, the only real QoL change achieved by this is that you now need to press less buttons (which by the way is boring for some), and QoL regarding Seals has become worse in many aspects.

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Or, give current Sleeve Draw 3 charges.

Originally Posted by Seraphor

Or, give current Sleeve Draw 3 charges.

That still does nothing for the lost optimization and the fun previously to be found therein.

I much preferred the old version.

Sadly, balanced card design of any sort reveals how poor controller support is for mid-GCD target-weaving. I'd just have hoped that have it'd then make a good excuse to address those previously subtle controller issues rather than repeatedly backing away from a balanced and enjoyable card system (first by refusing to balance Royal Road: Expand and Balance, and now by watering down what's come since).

This actually can be said about every job . every job post HW continually suffers from the simplification/elimination of many fun optimizable complexities.
I really hope SE hears this. it is in all honesty for me what hurts shadowbringers as an expansion the most. i may enjoy the story , the hard fights but when my job turned to worst it took out not all but some of my enjoyment of the game.
To put an example, In stormblood i loved doing dungeons as smn , it felt fun and cathartic .
Now though it just doesnt feel the same way , sure our dps is top notch and our utility really good but thats not the problem with the job, the problem is that the changes they put in 5.0 that have persisted since now. Pets no longer feel like they "exist" , without aetherflow our roots are detouched and hang like rotten limbs and we didnt gain anything from its removal.
Trance is not nearly as good of a clock as aetherflow ,bahamut became slower now that it doesnt interact with ogcds , trance joined with pheonix its a button that can be a massive dps loss depending the fight and it doesnt feel as rewarding as stormblood bahamut.
In stormblood the play style was extremely punishing , since a death meant you would go back to the start but it rewarded you with higher highs, free movement and it gave you a rotation that was so fluid you basicly wrote the fight ,which was fitting for a the tactician job.
Shadowbringer summoner retains a lot of it but to put it better, in stormblood you wrote the rotation to see how you would get the most out of it, while in shadowbringers you write it to see how you will lose the least out of it.

Originally Posted by HeulGDarian

This actually can be said about every job . every job post HW continually suffers from the simplification/elimination of many fun optimizable complexities.
I really hope SE hears this. it is in all honesty for me what hurts shadowbringers as an expansion the most. i may enjoy the story , the hard fights but when my job turned to worst it took out not all but some of my enjoyment of the game.
To put an example, In stormblood i loved doing dungeons as smn , it felt fun and cathartic .
Now though it just doesnt feel the same way , sure our dps is top notch and our utility really good but thats not the problem with the job, the problem is that the changes they put in 5.0 that have persisted since now. Pets no longer feel like they "exist" , without aetherflow our roots are detouched and hang like rotten limbs and we didnt gain anything from its removal.
Trance is not nearly as good of a clock as aetherflow ,bahamut became slower now that it doesnt interact with ogcds , trance joined with pheonix its a button that can be a massive dps loss depending the fight and it doesnt feel as rewarding as stormblood bahamut.
In stormblood the play style was extremely punishing , since a death meant you would go back to the start but it rewarded you with higher highs, free movement and it gave you a rotation that was so fluid you basicly wrote the fight ,which was fitting for a the tactician job.
Shadowbringer summoner retains a lot of it but to put it better, in stormblood you wrote the rotation to see how you would get the most out of it, while in shadowbringers you write it to see how you will lose the least out of it.

Has any job improved to this degree since SB? Pardon my cynicism, even the new jobs are very safe and it makes me very worried for the future. kids dont play this game stop making it kid friendly yoshi P. as i like to yell out from time to time MAKE IT HARDER

Healer job design in general has been completely abysmal from 4.0 onwards. The 5.3 AST changes should come as no surprise to anyone who has played healer in this game for a long time.

The message from the developers is clear: Healers should not concern themselves with optimization.

As a result, I now simply do 8 weekly clears with my static and then log out and play a different game instead. Pressing one button a hundred times and hoping for better Crit/DH luck is not an expression of player skill in the slightest. Sadly, the current job design philosophy shows no signs of changing.